I guess if that happened we could uh... start calling CFJs, pretending that the mechanism still existed. And then establish common law rules that way (eg we could have proposal voting as a matter of common law and then bring back the rules)
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Technically, it would "cause Agora to cease to exist." So yes. > > -Aris > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:21 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> any proposal doing that would get failed bc of ossifying agora though right? >> >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Aris Merchant >> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Agora would stop existing. It would therfore have no state. Arguably >>> though, if we made a meta-descision to recreate it, it would start >>> existing again. The Paradox of Self-Amendment has some stuff on this. >>> >>> >>> -Aris >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >>>> As a thought experiment (only), what is the state of Agora if we repeal >>>> every rule? >>>> >>>> -o >>>> >>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:30 AM, Aris Merchant >>>>> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ahh! Don't do that. All rules are instruments. >>>>> >>>>> -Aris >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Proto: >>>>>> >>>>>> Title: Spring Cleaning >>>>>> >>>>>> Content: Remove all Historic Instruments [replace that with a proper >>>>>> definition for cleanup] that are older than 1 year old. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This whole conversation rung a memory bell for me, something Old (12+ >>>>>>>> years old) that might be >>>>>>>> still in effect! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There was a Proposal, that read something like the following: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Be it Hereby Proclaimed that from this moment forward, anyone who >>>>>>>> causes gamestate >>>>>>>> changes without creating a public record is Guilty of the Crime of >>>>>>>> Invisibilitating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note that Instruments don't lose power (they just reach the end of >>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> effects). So >>>>>>>> if a Proposal defines an effect as ongoing, there's still a Powered >>>>>>>> instrument out there >>>>>>>> proclaiming people guilty of this crime whenever they do it… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> fx: pained sigh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a practical matter, it’s not realistic for the Referee to keep track >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> every infraction-bearing document indefinitely. The current rules to >>>>>>> appear >>>>>>> to require it anyways, so I make an effort: I have a massive folder of >>>>>>> pledges, for example. However, at the end of the day, I (and, I think, >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> inevitable successor) is only human, and can only account for so much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I miss a card due to a historic Instrument, please bring it up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -o >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> -- >> From V.J Rada -- >From V.J Rada
