On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: > >> On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:19 AM, Aris Merchant >> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Agora would stop existing. It would therfore have no state. Arguably >> though, if we made a meta-descision to recreate it, it would start >> existing again. The Paradox of Self-Amendment has some stuff on this. > > Would it, though? The presence of rules may not be the defining feature of > Agora’s existence. The rules tell us how to play, but - I would argue, not > what Agora _is_. That definition is not formalizable without resorting to a > higher meta-level than the rules, I suspect. > > That said, I have absolutely no intention of running any experiments on this, > and in fact will object as strenuously as is possible to anything that would > have the effect of removing all rules from Agora.
Agora is a game. What is a game if the board is removed? Is it nothing? Or is the players? I would look at the players. If they are playing, the game still exists. If they aren't, and there isn't a board, I would say that the game is gone. -Aris
