CFJ 3509 is restrictive.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:00 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I never used a power of the office. If I actually used certiorari to
> judge my own CFJ, that would be a different story.
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:59 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>
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>> I'm sure the referee realizes that the timely fashion response will stretch 
>> into
>> next week's supply of cards.  (And if ever there was a case for Pink Slip,
>> it's this one).
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
>>> "  A person SHALL NOT make a public statement that is a lie. A statment is 
>>> a lie
>>>   if its publisher either knew or believed it to be not to be true at the 
>>> time
>>>   e published it (or, in the case of an action, not to be effective), and it
>>>   was made with the intent to mislead. Merely quoting a statement does not
>>>   constitute making it for the purposes of this rule."
>>>
>>> Whoops. This attempt was certainly illegal. Although, unless the card
>>> issued to nichdel didn't work, there's nothing the referee can do
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I ... thought I did?  On mobile now, but planning to catch up with all the
>>> > tasks later today and will check.
>>> >
>>> > There are "bad" judgements that were never appealed or were forced
>>> > through similarly, and the result was an immediate follow up CFJ saying
>>> > the earlier one was wrong and overriding the precedent.
>>> >
>>> > There might be some interesting end play and discussion about forcing
>>> > officers to disobey rules, but in the end CFJs are only guidelines.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
>>> >> My plan would be to use some combination of my two PM votes, grok's
>>> >> habit of voting with gFP, Celestial Fire-Fox's agency and ridiculously
>>> >> high quorums to try and strongarm it, even though I'm sure others
>>> >> would simply ignore me.
>>> >>
>>> >> Talking of moots, have you ever resolved that moot on the CFJ I judged?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I did wonder if it was something like that :p
>>> >> >
>>> >> > (If one does turn up truly unjudged I would try to get it resolved).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Also:  even if you judge on your win, you're just fast-tracking it for
>>> >> > moot, there's really no endgame where a wrong CFJ stands and
>>> >> > becomes precedent AFAICT.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > In the past when there's been an obvious bad faith judge, a parallel
>>> >> > CFJ is just called in the mean time and everyone ignores the bad one
>>> >> > pretty much.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, 28 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
>>> >> >> Sorry yeah, my plan was p much to get people to call CFJs on my
>>> >> >> frivolous win attempt thinking they were safe and then tricking them
>>> >> >> by revealing this was invalid and I still had certiorari.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Kerim Aydin 
>>> >> >> <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Follow up, 3110 was judged by Murphy 24 Oct 2011.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Please please do not do this without asking.  There are a ream of
>>> >> >> >> court cases that have been judged but were not put in the official
>>> >> >> >> Court online records.  I have been catching up about 10 a month on 
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> back end from my email archive and updated about 50 so far.
>>> >> >> >> In doing so, of those 50 I only found 1 wit hough a judgement.
>>> >> >> >> I'm happy to do the research when you pick one, but before you
>>> >> >> >> grab it.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > I found heaps of CFJs that seem to be never judged. I plan to use
>>> >> >> >> > Certiorari to judge them all like a boss. The first one is 3110, 
>>> >> >> >> > I use
>>> >> >> >> > Certiorari to assign it to myself.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > The statement of the CFJ is this:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >     I (Pavitra) satisfy the Victory Condition of Being Pavitra, 
>>> >> >> >> > by means
>>> >> >> >> >     of sending this message.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > My judgement is UNDETERMINED. See 3111 and 3109,
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > --
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