On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 at 16:04 Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 at 18:12 Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> >       I award myself a Transparent Ribbon.
> >
> >       (Ultraviolet, Platinum, Orange, Cyan, Blue).
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I think this fails. Rule 2438 states:
> >
> >       Orange (O): When a proposal is adopted via an Agoran Decision on
> >       which no valid votes were AGAINST, its proposer earns an Orange
> >       Ribbon.
> >
> > AGAINST is, however, always a valid vote on an Agoran decision to adopt
> a proposal.
> >
> > I would be amenable to including a Transparent ribbon award in a fix
> proposal, however.
>
> Sorry, but that's an absolutely absurd reading.  The verb "cast" is clearly
> and strongly implied there.
>
> There *were* no valid votes of AGAINST.  There were valid *options* of
> against.
>

Rule 955 does not define "valid option", it defines "valid vote"; Rule 217
implies that definitions in rules of equal or higher power *do* override
common-sense definitions. As a result, the correct definition in rule 2438
is as defined by rule 955. Note also that 955 is very clear to distinguish
between a 'ballot' and a 'vote' in a way that some other rules do not; it
seems to me to be the prescription of what the terms mean.

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