On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 at 16:04 Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Oct 2017 at 18:12 Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > I award myself a Transparent Ribbon. > > > > (Ultraviolet, Platinum, Orange, Cyan, Blue). > > > > > > Unfortunately, I think this fails. Rule 2438 states: > > > > Orange (O): When a proposal is adopted via an Agoran Decision on > > which no valid votes were AGAINST, its proposer earns an Orange > > Ribbon. > > > > AGAINST is, however, always a valid vote on an Agoran decision to adopt > a proposal. > > > > I would be amenable to including a Transparent ribbon award in a fix > proposal, however. > > Sorry, but that's an absolutely absurd reading. The verb "cast" is clearly > and strongly implied there. > > There *were* no valid votes of AGAINST. There were valid *options* of > against. > Rule 955 does not define "valid option", it defines "valid vote"; Rule 217 implies that definitions in rules of equal or higher power *do* override common-sense definitions. As a result, the correct definition in rule 2438 is as defined by rule 955. Note also that 955 is very clear to distinguish between a 'ballot' and a 'vote' in a way that some other rules do not; it seems to me to be the prescription of what the terms mean.