You continuing out the quorum uncertainty is going to create decision
uncertainty because we will be unsure of whose votes counted. At some
point, we need to just ratify it and make up our minds.
I hereby intend to ratify the following document, without objection:
{
The quorum on each of the decisions to adopt Proposals 8066-8076 is 5.
}
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Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:11 AM Timon Walshe-Grey <m...@timon.red> wrote:
>
> Well, the solution for that is for enough people to vote (in the next
> decision with uncertain quorum) to beat the maximum possible value of quorum.
>
> I think decision uncertainty is far more undesirable than quorum uncertainty.
> We're just about coping with having two possible quora for each decision, but
> things will get really confusing if the ruleset diverges as well.
>
> -twg
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On July 23, 2018 3:03 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > You can fix decision uncertainty, but this unavoidably perpetuates the
> > quorum
> >
> > uncertainty. Any votes now are valid if and only if the voting period has
> > been
> >
> > extended, so their validity for determining quorum in the next batch will be
> >
> > uncertain...
> >
> > (Personally I'm abstaining on purpose so I'm decidedly not humiliated).
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
> >
> > > Quorum on the Agoran Decisions on whether or not to adopt Proposals
> > > 8066-8076
> > >
> > > is either 5.0 or 7.0. There were 6 votes on each Decision.
> > >
> > > If quorum is 5.0, then I have a week in which to announce the result. And
> > > if
> > >
> > > it's 7.0, then the voting period is extended by a week. This means that I
> > > can
> > >
> > > still unambiguously resolve these Decisions, but only if one of the
> > > following
> > >
> > > slackers attempts to cast a vote soon - even PRESENT:
> > >
> > > ATMunn, Corona, CuddleBeam, G., omd, Trigon, V.J. Rada,
> > >
> > > Gaelan, nichdel, Ouri, pokes, Quazie, Telnaior and 天火狐.
> > >
> > > The aforementioned (active) slackers ought to be ashamed of themselves for
> > >
> > > bringing this confusion upon Agora. You people are why we can't have nice
> > >
> > > things. I expect better of you all in the future.
> > >
> > > If quorum on these Decisions is 5.0, then the above is a humiliating
> > > public
> > >
> > > reminder, courtesy of Rule 2168. (Otherwise, I suppose it is merely a
> > >
> > > humiliating public statement.)
> > >
> > > -twg
>
>
