On Wed, 2019-07-31 at 17:27 -0400, D. Margaux wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Jason Cobb <jason.e.c...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Gratuitous: > > > > The 4 week period gives plenty of time for all of these rule > > changes to be effected in ~2 weeks. > > > > Start of Week 0: write proposal that repeals any protections > > (including AIAN). Distribute this proposal. > > > > Week 0: voting on proposal to repeal protections. > > > > End of Week 0: resolve decision to adopt proposal to repeal all > > protections. > > > > Start of Week 1: write proposal that does whatever the hell you > > want. > > > > Week 1: voting on proposal to do whatever. > > > > End of Week 1: resolve decision to adopt proposal to do whatever. > > > > [Obviously there's some extra time there because proposals aren't > > distributed and assessed instantly, but you get the point.] > > > > Thus arbitrary rule changes are possible in 2-3 weeks, assuming > > that distributing/voting on/assessing proposals counts as a > > "reasonable combination of actions by players". > > > > Jason Cobb > > I disagree for a variety of reasons. > > First, your example here would be an inseparable group of changes > that result in Agora being ossified. Under the Rule, "If any . . . > inseperable group of changes to the gamestate would cause Agora to > become ossified . . . it is cancelled and does not occur, rules to > the contrary notwithstanding." That's not inseparable. It'd be easy for the first change to happen without the second.
> Second, all I need to do is identify one rule change that is > IMPOSSIBLE to enact in 4 weeks, and I think it's trivially easy to do > that. > > Here's a rule change that is trivially IMPOSSIBLE to enact: "Enact a > power 100 Rule that states: 'It is, and always has been, IMPOSSIBLE > to enact this rule.'" It's not IMPOSSIBLE to enact that in the future. (Agora /doesn't/ regulate the state of the past, but that doesn't mean it /couldn't/. Besides, nothing implies that that rule would have force; we could redefine "Power 100" to mean "has no legal effect" or "means the opposite of what it says" or whatever in less than two weeks.) -- ais523
