On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 21:30, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:26 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 1/11/2020 10:53 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 13:25, Jason Cobb wrote:
> > >
> > >> I suppose. I was considering keeping them to try to bribe people, but
> > >> since they're pretty useless, that would be pointless. I perform the
> > >> following action 18 times: { If I have more than 1000 Coins, I pay a
> fee
> > >> of 1000 Coins to win the game. }.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Possibly too late now, but I think this really shouldn't be
> (possibly) 18
> > > wins. I feel quite strongly on this point, since I believe that's more
> > > wins than I've had, and I've had to work hard to have the most
> instances
> > > of Champion.
> >
> > Er, did you notice that the Scroll has this now:
> > Spaaace [...] Jason Cobb (x1000)
> > and this:
> > Proposal [...] D. Margaux(x501)
>
> TBH, I'd be for consolidating those and then giving another patent
> title that signified that one had found a way to get an infinite
> number of wins (I've suggested Infinite Jestor in the past, and
> presumably the Herald could mark it Infinite Jestor by Spaaace or the
> like).
>
> -Aris
>
Infinite wins are boring. They're trivial to achieve in most loophole scams
that get you wins. For instance, Jason Cobb could easily have chosen an
arbitrarily large number of coins to accumulate, and even chosen to
interleave declarations of victory in the event that there had been a reset
condition. Any proposal force-through can trivially result in an arbitrary
number, as can any dictatorship. Even the current condition for Apathy
allows it to be achieved an arbitrary number of times.
Speaking of which, did the proposal that authorized D. Margaux's victory
actually do that? The rules at the moment don't seem to allow victory by
proposal, nor are victories self-ratifying any more.
Alexis
