On Monday, June 1, 2020 8:56:35 PM CDT nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On Monday, June 1, 2020 8:46:09 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > Isn't that still a difference in intended meaning? Maybe I didn't > > phrase it clearly enough the first time, but my intended meaning was > > "Right now at the moment I'm calling this CFJ, the truth value > > (true/false) of 'Falsifian owns at least one blot' equals the truth > > value of 'English Wikipedia has an article titled "Sponge"'". > > If you had used "right now" or "currently" I'd agree with your reading, see > below. > > > Also, CFJ statements about things like "Alice owns a blot" are usually > > assumed to be about the current situation at the time the statement > > was called. Are you saying the words "if and only if" override that > > default, and lead you interpret my statement as encompassing other > > times and/or situations other than the current one? Or am I > > misunderstanding your argument? > > There's no "override". In "Alice owns a blot" there's no ambiguity about > whether that statement is present progressive. When you introduce a modal, > you also introduce an ambiguity: now the sentence could be present > progressive or it could be conditional, which can refer to an "always" time > frame or a "currently" time frame without clarity. My honest first take of > your CFJ was a conditional always time frame. > > -- > nch
I don't think I'm alone with this reading either. G's arguments seem to implicitly rely on the "always"/"all possibilities" interpretation too. -- nch
