Hi Harish / Akash,

Thanks  for  your response.

 

Yes. I  completely agree that theoretically it is possible to  extract the alt 
text of the image and convert words in numbers. However, the  idea was  to stop 
general bots, which would  still happen. It is  possible  to determine the  
captcha programmatically provided that coding to target specific site is  done. 
I would myself not recommend this approach for  a site that is vastly popular, 
or has high stakes, in  which  case specific targeting  could  very well happen.

 

There  are  many other  backend tracking and detection mechanisms that should 
be  implemented for  a high visibility / high stake  site. Amazon has  been 
able to keep intruders away even without  a captcha.

 

OTP may be cited as one of  the  alternatives.

 

However, solution has to be context specific, and many portals that are new or  
have a relatively  low user base may not be able to opt mobile integration or 
deploy network level safety mechanisms.

 

Sugamya  Pustakalaya  has a captcha that asks the  user  to add two numbers. 
While this  would suffice for  a general bot, it would not suffice if someone 
specifically targets  that site, and  codes to  determine the captcha. Hackers 
would indulge in custom coding if they have something to gain from it.

 

Your observation is completely valid. We just need to decide context specific 
trade-offs.

 

 

I may be sticking out  my  neck  and making a statement about future. I feel  
that with the  emergence of AI / computer vision most captchas would not be 
safe in  near future, even if they are  just images. We may actually see image 
based captchas go away in the  time to come, and  something new may emerge.

 

Thanks.

Alok

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:17 PM
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Cc: Kotian, H P
Subject: Re: [Ai] For software developers - creating custom accessible CAPTCHA

 

Hi Alok

 

Just to bring to your attention, there is a security challenge in this approach.

CAPTCHA is essentially used to fight against Bots and to prevent them from 
guess the CAPTCHA.

As I see, you have the words placed in Alt text. It is not a big deal to read 
the alt text fromDocument object and convert the numbers in words back to 
numerals.

 

Check it out.

 

Harish.

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Alok 
Kaushik via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 8:49 AM
To: ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in
Cc: Alok Kaushik <alok.li...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Ai] For software developers - creating custom accessible CAPTCHA

 

Hi,

In one of my recent software development works I created a CAPTCHA that is 
accessible for screen readers using the following approach.

 

1.       Generate a random 5 digit number.

2.       Generate an image containing the embedded 5 digit number. Image is 
programmatically generated and is  not an image that could be downloaded. 5 
digit number is communicated to the captcha generating code using encryption.

3.       Convert the complete 5 digit number in English words, including the 
words thousand and hundred.

4.       Assign the converted number in words as the alternate text of the 
image dynamically. This would allow the screen readers to read out the number 
in words, while  other users will see regular image.

5.       Track the random number as a session variable for later comparison.

 

I am writing this for following two reasons.

1.       This approach seems to be working for me. Want to know if anyone sees 
any issue in this either in usability or security.

2.       If anyone doing software development is interested in implementing 
this, I can share the code off the list.

 

Thanks.

Alok

 

 

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