Hi Ate,

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ate Douma <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 02/02/2012 04:15 AM, Lahiru Gunathilake wrote:
>
>> Hi Ate,
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Ate Douma<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>  On 02/02/2012 12:27 AM, Suresh Marru wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Ate,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  PERFECT. This is what I was looking for. So, to confirm, the process
>>>>>>>> is, if the VOTE passes, you will
>>>>>>>> copy these artifacts to the 
>>>>>>>> minotaur:/www/www.apache.org/****<http://www.apache.org/**>
>>>>>>>> dist/incubator/airavata/<http:**//www.apache.org/dist/**
>>>>>>>> incubator/airavata/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/airavata/>>area,
>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thats right Chris. If the vote passes, we will copy this to
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/****incubator/airavata/<http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/airavata/>
>>>>>>> <http://**www.apache.org/dist/incubator/**airavata/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/airavata/>>which
>>>>>>> I assume automatically gets mirrored.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys, while I think the above discussion all makes sense, I'm not sure
>>>>>> why you
>>>>>> expect the vote on *this* release candidate will pass?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although my earlier comments *and* -1 vote may be ignored here and
>>>>>> now,
>>>>>> I doubt
>>>>>> the vote will pass the scrutiny of reviewers on general@incubator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No worries, not ignoring your VOTE. Just trying to get my comments in
>>>>> regarding what I think
>>>>> should be addressed as well, get what I mean? Otherwise there can be 2
>>>>> -1s :)
>>>>>
>>>>>  Absolutely.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As I meant to say above, those definitely are important points as well,
>>> and good to get tackled right away too. I only had time to review one
>>> entry
>>> point (so far), you've picked another. Good stuff!
>>>
>>
>> Ate, if you can do a full test and get back to this thread if there are
>> more blockers for the release candidate that would be a great help for us,
>> I don't think its a good idea to find blockers one by one in each RC.
>>
> Luckily there are more and good pairs of eyes to do the review.
>
> I'd like to explain though that my time *and* focus as a Mentor to help
> out a podling is and will be primarily on the more formal rules and process
> management, like the release procedures and LEGAL stuff, and about 'the
> Apache Way' of doing stuff, community building, etc.
>
> Project specifics like testing if certain technical functionality is
> working as expected or fulfilling expectations is secondary and 'extra' to
> that, time permitted.
> Those things however (IMO) are not critical tasks for a Mentor to review:
> you really can and should rely on your own community to provide you with
> the needed feedback. In the end, that is or will be your audience once
> you've graduated from the Incubator, and the sooner you learn to rely and
> make use of it the better. What a release 'blocker' is on technical or
> functional level really is something a project community needs to define
> itself. There are no common rules for that.
>
> What I'm trying to say is: full technical testing of a release candidate
> (besides the basics like: can I actually startup the application) isn't
> really my interest, although it might depend on the podling and my personal
> interest/involvement. For this level of review you should be looking at the
> committers and other direct community members, not so much the Mentors.
>
Yes, we don't expect mentors to look in to technical functionality, we
exactly want all the blockers you have found in the given release candidate
if possible, so that we can come-up with the next release candidate which
fix all those blockers.

Thanks
Lahiru

>
> Kind regards, Ate
>
>
>> Lahiru
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Thats right Ate.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did not ignore your comments, tried to address Chris's concerns while
>>>> looking at the missing LICENSE issues. Will get back for your feedback
>>>> soon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Cool, no worries then :)
>>>
>>> Ate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Suresh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Cheers,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Suresh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   KEYS: 
>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/****asf/incubator/airavata/KEYS<https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/incubator/airavata/KEYS>
>>>>>>>> <h**ttps://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/incubator/airavata/KEYS<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/airavata/KEYS>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CHANGEME - 
>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/****<https://svn.apache.org/repos/**>
>>>>>>>>> asf/incubator/airavata/tags/****airavata-0.2-incubating/**
>>>>>>>>> RELEASE_NOTES<https://svn.**apache.org/repos/asf/**
>>>>>>>>> incubator/airavata/tags/**airavata-0.2-incubating/**RELEASE_NOTES<https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/airavata/tags/airavata-0.2-incubating/RELEASE_NOTES>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cool, perfect. I'll review shortly and cast my VOTE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++****++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**
>>>>>>>> ++**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ++++++
>>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> WWW:   
>>>>>>>> http://sunset.usc.edu/~****mattmann/<http://sunset.usc.edu/%7E**mattmann/>
>>>>>>>> <http://sunset.usc.**edu/~mattmann/<http://sunset.usc.edu/%7Emattmann/>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++****++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ++++++
>>>>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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>>>>>>>> ++**
>>>>>>>> ++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++****++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**
>>>>> ++**++++++
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>> WWW:   
>>>>> http://sunset.usc.edu/~****mattmann/<http://sunset.usc.edu/%7E**mattmann/>
>>>>> <http://sunset.usc.**edu/~mattmann/<http://sunset.usc.edu/%7Emattmann/>
>>>>> >
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++****++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**
>>>>> ++**++++++
>>>>>
>>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++****++++++++++++++++++++++++++++**
>>>>> ++**++++++
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
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