On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Zoran Jeremic <zoran.jere...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Patrik,
>
> Thank you for your answer. It really helps me to clarify the thinks I was
> not  sure. In the meantime, I managed to make it works with one seed only.
>
> The reason  I'm using only one seed is to save me some extra amount of
> work. My application is in use, but I'm still developing it and change the
> code often. I'm using Azure cloud to run it on, and node instances use
> Azure internal IP between nodes which are not permanent, so it is changed
> if instance is restarted.
>
> I have 1 master node and many workers. Master is used as the seed, and I'm
> creating image of worker to auto-scale it based on the work load. Each time
> I change the source code procedure is as follows:
> - update the code on master and one worker
> - create an image from the worker (in Azure opposed to Amazon AWS this
> process terminates worker instance you were using as template)
> - initialize 2 worker instances
> - configure 1 worker to be seed and leave it to be running and configure
> second worker to use master and first worker as seeds.
> - create an image from the second worker so I can auto-scale other workers
> when I need it.
>
> If I have 1 seed I don't have to create image 2 times, so it saves me some
> work and time.
>

Ok, I see


>
>
> However, using only one seed node is a single point of failure, so I don't
>> see why you would use that.
>
>
> What do you mean by "single point of failure"? Does it mean that if I
> initialize node100 having seed-nodes=[node1], and node1 is not reachable,
> it will fail to join cluster?
>

Yes


> Is there any other risk?
>

No, the seed nodes are only used as initial contact points for new nodes
joining the cluster.


>
> In other to avoid frequent re-configuration of nodes and make it dynamic
> as much as possible, I thought to expose REST service on master node that
> will return seeds IPs and each worker on load will dynamically load seeds
> on application startup. Do you find any problems with this approach?
>

That is fine. You can use whatever discovery mechanism you like to find
some nodes to use as seeds.
Either you build up the config dynamically, or you use the API
Cluster(system).joinSeedNodes.

/Patrik


>
> Thanks,
> Zoran
>
>
> On Monday, 17 February 2014 02:12:00 UTC-8, Patrik Nordwall wrote:
>
>> Hi Zoran,
>>
>> Glad that you got it working.
>>
>> Using only one seed should be possible, but only one can have itself as
>> seed node.
>> E.g.
>> node1 may have seed-nodes=[node1]
>> node2 may have seed-nodes=[node1]
>> node3 may have seed-nodes=[node1]
>>
>> then, later on, when the cluster is running, you could use any other node
>> as seed
>> node100 may have seed-nodes=[node3]
>>
>> However, using only one seed node is a single point of failure, so I
>> don't see why you would use that.
>>
>> /Patrik
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Zoran Jeremic <zoran....@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I solved this. Seems that the problem was in the fact I was using only
>>> one seed. I thought it's not necessary to have 2 seeds for cluster.
>>>
>>> Zoran
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 13 February 2014 16:41:50 UTC-8, Zoran Jeremic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Roland,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your advice. I think I tried this and it didn't work for
>>>> some reason, but I don't remember it now. Anyway, I solved this issue by
>>>> dynamically discovering IP address at node start up and setting up
>>>> configuration from Java code rather then from application.conf.
>>>> I'm able to connect new worker nodes without having to know their IP
>>>> and ports. However, shortly after the second worker is connected, all nodes
>>>> are disconnected and error message is:
>>>>
>>>> [WARN] [02/13/2014 23:50:25.736] 
>>>> [ClusterSystem-akka.remote.default-remote-dispatcher-5]
>>>> [akka.tcp://ClusterSystem@100.71.52.66:41754/system/endpointManager/
>>>> reliableEndpointWriter-akka.tcp%3A%2F%2FClusterSystem%40100.71.54.
>>>> 43%3A39932-1] Association with remote system [akka.tcp://
>>>> ClusterSystem@100.71.54.43:39932] has failed, address is now gated for
>>>> [5000] ms. Reason is: [Association failed with
>>>> [akka.tcp://ClusterSystem@100.71.54.43:39932]].
>>>>
>>>> [INFO] [02/13/2014 23:50:25.748] 
>>>> [ClusterSystem-akka.actor.default-dispatcher-4]
>>>>> [akka://ClusterSystem/deadLetters] Message [com.inextweb.crawler.akka.
>>>>> messages.GeneralJobMessage] from Actor[akka://ClusterSystem/rem
>>>>> ote/akka.tcp/ClusterSystem@100.71.110.33:2551/user/clusterController/
>>>>> crawlerManager/c2#-993579407] to Actor[akka://ClusterSystem/deadLetters]
>>>>> was not delivered. [1] dead letters encountered. This logging can be 
>>>>> turned
>>>>> off or adjusted with configuration settings 'akka.log-dead-letters' and
>>>>> 'akka.log-dead-letters-during-shutdown'.
>>>>>
>>>>> [WARN] [02/13/2014 23:50:29.399] 
>>>>> [ClusterSystem-akka.cluster.cluster-dispatcher-16]
>>>>> [akka.tcp://ClusterSystem@100.71.52.66:41754/system/cluster/
>>>>> core/daemon] Cluster Node [akka.tcp://ClusterSystem@100.71.52.66:41754]
>>>>> - Marking node(s) as UNREACHABLE [Member(address = akka.tcp://
>>>>> ClusterSystem@100.71.54.43:39932, status = Up)]
>>>>> [WARN] [02/13/2014 23:50:46.271] 
>>>>> [ClusterSystem-akka.remote.default-remote-dispatcher-6]
>>>>> [akka.tcp://ClusterSystem@100.71.52.66:41754/system/endpointManager/
>>>>> reliableEndpointWriter-akka.tcp%3A%2F%2FClusterSystem%40100.71.54.
>>>>> 43%3A39932-1] Association with remote system [akka.tcp://
>>>>> ClusterSystem@100.71.54.43:39932] has failed, address is now gated
>>>>> for [5000] ms. Reason is: [Association failed with
>>>>> [akka.tcp://ClusterSystem@100.71.54.43:39932]].
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any idea what could cause this failure? It's not happening
>>>> until I try to connect second worker.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 13 February 2014 03:45:15 UTC-8, rkuhn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Zoran,
>>>>>
>>>>> on the worker nodes you can configure
>>>>>
>>>>> hostname=""
>>>>> port=0
>>>>>
>>>>> since they just need to find the master.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Roland
>>>>>
>>>>> 12 feb 2014 kl. 03:17 skrev Zoran Jeremic <zoran....@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've implemented Akka cluster where I have one master node that
>>>>> initialize cluster in the following way:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AdaptiveLoadBalancingPool pool = new AdaptiveLoadBalancingPool(
>>>>>>                 MixMetricsSelector.getInstance(), 0);
>>>>>>         ClusterRouterPoolSettings settings = new
>>>>>> ClusterRouterPoolSettings(
>>>>>>                 totalInstances, maxInstancesPerNode,
>>>>>> allowLocalRoutees, useRole);
>>>>>>         crawlerManager = getContext().actorOf(
>>>>>>                 new ClusterRouterPool(pool,
>>>>>> settings).props(Props.create(
>>>>>>                         CrawlerManagerActor.class, getSelf())),
>>>>>>                 "crawlerManager");
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's configure like as:
>>>>>
>>>>> akka {
>>>>>>     actor {
>>>>>>         provider = "akka.cluster.ClusterActorRefProvider"
>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>     remote {
>>>>>>         log-remote-lifecycle-events = off
>>>>>>         netty.tcp {
>>>>>>                 hostname = "100.71.88.118"
>>>>>>                 port=2551
>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>     cluster {
>>>>>>     seed-nodes = [
>>>>>>                 "akka.tcp://ClusterSystem@100.71.88.118:2551"
>>>>>>     ]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And I have a worker node which is configured as:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> akka {
>>>>>>      actor {
>>>>>>         provider = "akka.cluster.ClusterActorRefProvider"
>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>     remote {
>>>>>>         log-remote-lifecycle-events = off
>>>>>>         netty.tcp {
>>>>>>                 hostname = "100.71.96.54"
>>>>>>                 port=2552
>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>     }
>>>>>>     cluster {
>>>>>>     seed-nodes = [
>>>>>>                 "akka.tcp://ClusterSystem@100.71.88.118:2551"
>>>>>>     ]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Each node is on different instance in Microsoft Azure cloud,but what I
>>>>> want is to create an image from worker and based on that image to create
>>>>> new instances of workers when system load is increased, so hostname and
>>>>> port should be created dynamically. However, from Akka documentation and
>>>>> previous discussion I couldn't find any description that will help me how
>>>>> to make this work. Could you give me some reference or description what
>>>>> have to be done and how to configure my nodes once it's loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Zoran
>>>>>
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