Hi Ashley,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think this might fit in rather well
with the "tag" based PersistentView
<https://github.com/akka/akka/issues/15004>. The Event Store journal plugin
could interpret the tag as a projection identifier.
/Patrik


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Ashley Aitken <amait...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I've been thinking about how Akka Persistence could possibly be improved
> for CQRS and *persistent* stream or log processing more generally.
>
> Here's my stream (no pun intended) of thought:
>
> Currently, PersistentActor is focussed on persisting state changes for an
> Actor (persistenceId) but why couldn't that be extended to just persisting
> a stream of events (or more generally messages) with the option to skip the
> reconstruction of state, i.e. PersistentStreamProducer. Similarly,
> PersistentView could be extended to consume a persistent stream of messages
> (keeping track of where it was up to, with the option to start again if
> needed), i.e. PersistentStreamConsumer.
>
> It should be possible to label these persistent streams with something
> other than a persistenceId (if appropriate), i.e. something like a topic.
>  And finally, the most important for CQRS, PersistentStreamConsumer
> shouldn't need to be tied to a real PersistentStreamProducer. It should be
> possible to create (perhaps with a DSL in Scala or separately in the store
> itself, or elsewhere) virtual streams (projections) based on
> PersistentStreamProducer(s), PSP types, message types, etc.
>
> Greg Young's Event Store would seem to be a great store for facilitating
> most (if not all) of this, with its projections functionality. Kafka would
> seem to be an even more scalable solution but (AFAIK) currently lacks the
> ability to create virtual streams (i.e. virtual logs).
>
> I think this approach is somewhat different from the current Akka Streams,
> as far as I understand them, which seem to be "run-time only" streams.
>  Perhaps these actors would be better named PersistentLogProducer and
> PersistentLogConsumer (or just LogProducer and LogConsumer).  Or they could
> just be traits.  In that case PersistentActor would be "Actor with
> LogProducer" and PersistentView would be "Actor with LogConsumer."
>
> Perhaps this can (almost) already be done with PersistentActor and
> PersistentView?
>
> I'd be very interested to know if the current PersistentViews could
> somehow use "virtual" persistenceIds resulting from projections created in
> Event Store.  I assume the current journals create "topics" for each
> PersistentActor persistenceId and the PersistenceViews just "look them up."
>  So if it was possible to create a projection in Event Store with a
> synthetic persistenceId then perhaps a PersistenceView could just find it,
> believing it to be a journal for a real PersistentActor.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> I note there is already:
>
> 1. An Akka client for Event Store (EventStore.JVM)
> 2. An early Event Store plugin for Akka Persistence
> 3. An Akka consumer for Kafka (akka-kafka)
>
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