On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Prakhyat Mallikarjun <prakhyat...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Patrik,
>
> Thanks for your inputs.
>
> Views will be updated. Can we get a look on the design of how view will be
> implemented in future?
>

There is nothing more than the famous Akka Persistence on the Query Side:
The Conclusion
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/akka-user/MNDc9cVG1To>.


> Is there any possibility the current class akka.persistence.PersistentView
> will be renamed or removed. I am asking from the perspective of migration.
>

That is possible. This is the reason why we always release new things as
experimental. Sometimes things must be improved based on real world usage.


> What will be the impact on migration from current persistent view
> implementation to future changes in PersistentView?
>

Current functionality of PersistentView is rather limited and it should not
be difficult to build something similar on top of the new thing. There will
be a decent migration path, but I can't promise that we will provide
anything that is source compatible.


>
> I understand the current PersistentView cannot aggregate events from
> multiple PersistentActor. I am aware it will be supported in future version
> of akka persistence. I am waiting to look at these changes :)
>
> But, I have query in current implementation of view,
> 1. Correct me If I am wrong, view can be started with particular sequence
> number. The sequence number should be passed as a constructor parameter to
> view.
> 2. My fundamental problem is how to get hold of the last sequence number
> read by a view before it was dead?
>

You must be prepared to process the same event again, i.e. PersistentView
has at-least once semantics.

/Patrik


>
> -Prakhyat M M
>
> On Monday, 20 October 2014 14:15:01 UTC+5:30, Patrik Nordwall wrote:
>>
>> Hi Prakhyat,
>>
>> I can't comment on ahjohannessen proposal, but in general it is difficult
>> to create a view that aggregates the event streams of many persistent actor
>> instances, and it is also difficult to create a persistent view for each
>> persistent actor when you don't know the identifiers up front.
>>
>> You can store the identifers in another persistent actor, and let that
>> actor be responsible for creating the views. This is not trivial, and one
>> of the reasons why we want to improve the persistent views. The core team
>> is swamped with other work so it will take a few more months until we can
>> start working on the improved persistent views.
>>
>> Cluster sharding for the views will only work if you send messages to
>> these views, because cluster sharding entry actors are only activated when
>> messages are sent to them.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Patrik
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Prakhyat Mallikarjun <prakh...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Team,
>>>
>>> I am eagerly looking for the answer to this query. Any updates would be
>>> appreciated and helpful.
>>>
>>> -Prakhyat M M
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 12 October 2014 20:59:10 UTC+5:30, Prakhyat Mallikarjun wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ahjohannessen,
>>>>
>>>> I understand your point. And I thoroughly agree your inputs.
>>>>
>>>> But the point I want is make is as below....
>>>> Correct me if I am wrong, the view will always be in lag compared to
>>>> the persistent actor. It will always pull the events persisted by
>>>> persistent actor. The last seen sequence number in persistent actor might
>>>> be different from last pulled sequence number in persistent view.
>>>>
>>>> Just to take an example consider PersistentActor persist events in
>>>> order 1,2,3,4,5,6. The view pulls persisted event from journal in order
>>>> 1,2,3,4,5,6 at lag duration of 2-5 secs.
>>>>
>>>> Consider persistent actor persisted 1,2,3,4,5,6. View pull's event
>>>> 1,2,3,4. But while handling event 4, exception is thrown. The fault
>>>> tolerance case which we are discussing here is view should be
>>>> recreated/started from sequence 4 followed by 5,6.
>>>>
>>>> Correct me if my understanding is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> -Prakhyat M M
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 12 October 2014 19:35:58 UTC+5:30, ahjohannessen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Prakhyat, it is really simple. Just wrap the message in case class
>>>>> ViewRead(msg: Any, sequenceNr: Long, persistenceId: String) and maintain a
>>>>> pointer of last seen sequenceNr per persistent actor, i.e. persistenceId.
>>>>> Then you can start "CatchUp" from that.
>>>>
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