I tested Alchemi on a machine with no .NET 3.0 in more detail. Manager fails when stopped ( you need to kill the process ). Executor also fails when it tries to connect. I have a few ideas that could solve the problem, but I would really like to know if you can at least start the current version of manager on win2000.
On the long term I recommend building of non dedicated executor that uses old WebServices for communication (as client). I think one of the bindings of WCF is compatible with old WebServices. It would be easier to run such an executor on mono ( I do not know if current or any of the previous versions of Alchemi worked on mono ) or win2003. Jure Šubara 2008/3/27 Jonathan Mitchem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > But that is an extra $200 to upgrade to XP Pro, when (up until now) > 2000 worked fine on those machines. > > Spread that across a thousand machines in an organization, and it's a > little harder to justify. Of course, by that time, you might as well > just get new Vista machines... but that's assuming there's a > significant IT budget to begin with. > > On the other hand, if a binary-only version works on 2000 (per Jure's > suggestion), which I think I'll test within the next few days, then > this entire concern is null and void. > > 2008/3/27 Matt Valerio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Exactly. > > > > I mean, I'm running a grid of 30 machines that are very much considered > > "old". We're talking 2.4GHz P4s and 1GHz P3s. These guys would go for > $40 > > at a garage sale. And they all run XP and Alchemi just fine. A machine > > that can run Windows 2000 but can't run XP is really starting to get > into > > the fringe cases. I guess I don't feel bad cutting off that last <1% of > the > > user base.... > > > > > > > > 2008/3/27 Jonathan Mitchem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > By the way, since I don't think it was obvious, I am pro-WCF, and I'm > > > glad the codebase moved in that direction. > > > > > > It's just that practical matter of matching what we like and want (as > > > developers and administrators) with the business reality of what makes > > > sense for Alchemi's "customers", right now. > > > > > > > > > 2008/3/27 Frank Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Jonathan raises a good point. We just upgraded the last of our 2k > > machines in January. We couldn't have been the last ones. A quick Google > of > > the subject showed that as of 2005 half of the business pc were still > > running win2k and MS has extended support until 2010. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.news.com/The-slow-road-to-Windows-XP/2100-1016_3-5746046.html > > > > > > > > On the other hand, Jure has done a lot of good work on WCF. Cheers > > Jure. I can live with XP sp2 and higher but I think that making a .net > > remoting version (binaries and source) easily accessible might provide > > benefit to the win2k folks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Jonathan Mitchem > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:57 AM > > > > To: Jure Subara > > > > Cc: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Alchemi-developers] Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 > > > > > > > > As far as I understand, .NET 3.0 isn't supported on Windows 2000. > > > > > > > > Personally, I have a 2000 machine and an XP machine. While, for > me, > > > > it's simply an annoyance, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person > out > > > > there still using a 2000 machine. > > > > > > > > If we branch the project to create a Remoting version, and a WCF > > > > version, they won't [by default] be compatible with each other... I > > > > can see that leading to even more headaches in terms of deployment. > > > > Granted, I'm sure we could create some sort of middleman to > maintain > > > > compatibility, but that's more of a hack than a solution. > > > > > > > > Then again, this might be kind of a naive view of the situation, > > > > because it looks like if we moved from .NET Remoting in the > Executor > > > > to something using MSMQ or Enterprise Services, then we should be > able > > > > to maintain compatibility with a WCF Manager. > > > > > > > > Any better solutions or feedback? or should we just say "Only runs > on > > > > XP SP2 and Higher"? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Jure Subara <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > > > I am making changes to add support for WCF communication > > > > in Alchemi. > > > > > > > > > > You need to install .NET Framework 3.0 (Microsoft .NET Framework > 3.0 > > > > > Redistributable > > > > > > > Package< > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=47&p=1&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=f54f5537-cc86-4bf5-ae44-f5a1e805680d&u=details.aspx%3ffamilyid%3d10CC340B-F857-4A14-83F5-25634C3BF043%26displaylang%3den > >) > > > > > to build or use the new version of alchemi. > > > > > > > > > > SDK (Microsoft Windows SDK for .NET Framework > > > > > > > 3.0< > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=40&p=3&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043&u=http%3a%2f%2fgo.microsoft.com%2ffwlink%2f%3fLinkId%3d74726 > >) > > > > > or special Visual Studio Extensions (Microsoft Visual Studio > 2005 > > CTP > > > > > Extensions for .NET Framework 3.0 (WCF & > > > > > > > WPF)< > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=40&p=2&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=10cc340b-f857-4a14-83f5-25634c3bf043&u=http%3a%2f%2fgo.microsoft.com%2ffwlink%2f%3fLinkId%3d74725 > >) > > > > > are not needed. > > > > > > > > > > Jure Šubara > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > > > Defy all challenges. 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