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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 12 01:06:12 -0800 2005 ------- Well, 'Simplicity of implementation' can NEVER be the criteria here: Rather, it MUST be 'Usability for a given purpose'. In other words, Can OOo serve the most common tasks in a user's working life (or hobbies)? If OOo fails that test, the user will turn to the other option: Microsoft Office. So let us examine the merit of this case from THAT point of view. First, let us examine whether this is a common need. Thanks to the sheer volume of available information and searchability, Internet has become THE single source of information for a vast majority of users. A user can exploit this information in the following incremental steps: 1. Simply search Internet for a given topic and browse the websites. 2. After step-1, save the information "as it is" (low-end use), or 3. Collate information from multile sites and then edit it, to form a body of knowledge (high-end use). We already have excellent freeware like Mozilla for step-1. OOo cannot add much value there. For steps 2 and 3, Mozilla's Composer can serve to a limited extent. However, if you want to do some in-depth work, then an Office product is needed (i.e., Word processor or a spreadsheet). Typically, the user would copy and paste the text+images from MULTIPLE websites; and then edit the contents, add his own content, add graphs, etc. If an Office product cannot do that, it is simply not relevant for the users of today. (Are we saying, "Either don't do it, or use MS Office till we develop that feature"?) ;) ******* In fact, what I said above is NOT my own thinking: Look at what the OOo strategy for 2010 (http://marketing.openoffice.org/strategy/v0.5.pdf) says about role of Internet for the future of OOo: "The Project contends that a single package that helps a large population address the most common tasks in their working lives is incomplete without at least email and web browser capabilities." While having a built-in browser may be the long-term goal, the least that can be expected from an Office product is to BE compatibile with Internet (browsers). Users have already pointed out this shortcoming. This should be treated as a URGENT issue to be resolved post-haste, not an "enhancement" that can be added when convenient. In other words, this issue should be treated as P2 (not P3). That brings us to the question of whether this is a P2 issue. You have stated that there is no data loss involved. But that is INCORRECT: For the user, the lifecycle of the data starts as soon he sees something of value in his browser. The data lifecycle continues till the data is saved on his PC (either "as it is" or in edited/compiled form). If OOo forces a break in the data-conversion chain, it means a data-loss to the user. I hope you agree. BTW you stated "If you turn off the Internet connection, the browser will display nothing", but actually none of the browsers lose the contents when connection is cut off. (It happens only if you refresh the page.) Finally, we should have embedding as DEFAULT: No one would want a document where the text is stored locally but all images are only at the website! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]