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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 20 09:50:49 -0800 2006 ------- If OOo is already running, then a new copy starts quickly. If no other copy is running it is taking 1 minute 40 to launch. My natural inclination is to close applications I am not using, so I see this delay often unless I manage to catch myself and leave OOo running. pl, I appologize if I have misunderstood your response, but it looks like you are saying OOo's behavior of ignoring the font path and loading every font it can find is a designed behavior. This is not meant to be a personal attack, but I think this behavior (if I understand it correctly, and maybe I don't) is not ideal for the following reasons: 1) Principle of Least Astonishment (POLA). The X windowing system has a well defined method for selecting which fonts should be used: the font path. This can be configured prior to starting X or after it has started using xset(1). That OOo does not use this method creates much astonishment. 2) OOo's method of scanning for files directly does not work if X is configured to use a font server. This means there is not a single method for adding fonts when OOo is running under X (either add fonts to a directory under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts or use spadmin to add fonts). 3) If OOo must go its own road, there should at least be an easy method of overriding the default search method so unwanted directories can be excluded and other directories added. I just checked the spadmin (which did take a long time to load even with another OOo application already running) and it only lists about 20 fonts - much fewer than the number OOo has scanned. Since the fonts aren't listed, I can't use spadmin to remove them. I must have an unusual usage pattern, as I haven't seen others complaining about font related start up time. Perhaps most people only have a minimal set of fonts installed under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts and don't close OOo when they are done using it. However, I've got a feeling most people still only commonly use a small subset of their installed fonts. Even with my excessive font set (even if we ignore the thousands of fonts OOo scans that are not in my font path) I regularly use only a small number of them. The others are "on tap" for their rare usage. If we assume most people have more fonts installed than they normally use, might it not make more sense to postpone loading every font until they are actually needed? Instead of taking a big hit at start-up time, couldn't OOo take more, smaller hits later? It might not be as efficient overall, but it might give the impression that OOo is more responsive. mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
