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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Apr  8 02:06:07 +0000 
2007 -------
Hi Cor
Thanks for acknowledging that "Remove Direct Character Formats" does not work.

I have tried what you suggested and have learned two new tricks, thank you.
To clear only para formatting:
Click in the paragraphs one at a time (without any chars selected) and do
Ctrl-Shift-Space.
To clear only char formatting:
Select most (not all) of one paragraph and do Ctrl-Shift-Space.

Yes they do what I want - but they have to be done one paragraph at a time
which is frustrating in a long document.

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To both Cor and Andre

Please let me explain why I think it should be at least P3 priority (not P4)
to implement all 3 of these commands, so they will work when many paragraphs
in a long document are selected:

- Reset both para and char (exists as “Default Formatting” and works).
- Reset char only (exists as "Remove Direct Character Formats", not working).
- Reset para only (my feature request for "Remove Direct Paragraph Formats").

I shall describe my own situation as an example but I imagine there will be
others who are affected in a similar way.

My situation:
I am a graphic designer. I work with professional software such as QuarkXpress
and Photoshop. I am gradually converting to Open Source software where possible.

Sometimes I have to produce word processor based documents. Clients send me .doc
files. I design and reformat them and return them as .doc files.

I am trying to persuade them to use OOo instead of MS Word – for many good
reasons such as not having to pay for MS Office upgrades and for ethical
anti-monopoly reasons.
For clients who switch to OOo, we will switch to exchanging files as .odt
instead of .doc.

My clients are small or medium businesses, or solo professionals such as
academic authors. I also do some free work for charities and NGOs.

My problem:
They send formatted text so they can add Bold or Italics where they require it,
which I must keep. They also use paragraph styles to set hierarchical headings
(chapter, section, sub-section, etc) which I must keep.

I would prefer they use styles for ALL paragraph formatting (including
indentation, etc) but they always send an amateurish mixture of styles and
direct formatting. My first task is to clean that up and make all paragraph
formatting use styles.

Sometimes they are very large documents. In Word I could simply select the
entire document and do Ctrl-Q which removes direct paragraph formatting only,
while keeping their directly formatted bold and italics - and their heading 
styles.

I think it must be a common experience, when professional word processor users
have to fix documents made by undisciplined word processor users.

In summary:

MS Word provides these 3 commands: Reset Para, Reset Char, Reset Both
which can be attached to three different key combos.
When I switched from Word to OOo, those quick tools are the thing I missed most.
In OOo I have to clean each paragraph one at a time, using the workaround
suggested by Cor.

For me, those 3 commands are basic wordprocessing necessities for professional
high volume work.

So please reconsider - make this P3, not P4.
I won't pester you with any more arguments if you disagree. :)

Best regards, Alan

PS: I think this issue should be changed from "unconfirmed" as Cor has now
confirmed that "Remove Direct Character Formats" (Ctrl-Shft-X) does not work in
XP and Debian.


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