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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 9 12:13:33 +0000 2008 ------- I can't tell exactly from discussion here where this issue is heading. I am using 2.4.1.5 ("unstable") on OpenSuse 10.3 and the change to always enable the Save button is still in effect. I dearly want to see the old behaviour back. It should not have been changed, at least not in so cavalier a fashion. The argument for programming simplicity (brought forward by kohei and others) doesn't hold water when one is also arguing for the compensatory modification indicator in the status bar: if it becomes too complex and equivocal to determine what constitutes a change in the document for an enabled or disabled save button, it is just as complex and equivocal to do so for the status bar indicator. The fact is, there's a pretty good consensus about what constitutes a file modification; and there is also a precedent of including a user option about, for instance, print setting "document modified" status. Calc is perhaps a different beast, since spreadsheets function differently, but that is a distinct issue. I'll let the inveterate number crunchers decide whatever seems right for them. But in a word processor (and other document editing), what is the purpose of saving when the document is already saved? Wanting to do so repeatedly "just to be sure" is a sign either of complete neurosis or of a thoroughly unstable and unreliable system. And I too am paranoid, like many here, and save automatically and repeatedly while I type. But I like the "cleanness" in design and work space of a save button that is only active when there is something to save. Please roll back this change until the other option can be offered cleanly as just that, an option. And please do so quickly. I don't want to have to wait for 3.1! When there are so many important issues crying out for attention, fervently requested features and enhancements, why did you guys have to tinker with this? Don't let a jittery eye on little differences with how some others do things ("competitive analysis") lead you astray. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]