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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 14 08:05:18 +0000 2008 ------- sergey_feo: indeed, PDF font embedding made by OOo is another strictly related issue that is open since years. Just check this OOo issue tracker for "PDF fonts" or similar query string and you'll find people who want an option in order to *not* embed fonts into their PDF documents or to change what is embedded. The arguments in favor or against it are the same ones we are discussing here. However, in OOo PDF there is also a *huge* problem with font substitution: you believe to have included a specific font while OOo, really, has embedded Times New Roman instead of Times, Arial instead of Helvetica or, even, fonts that were used with a text style that is no longer utilized in the main content or that belong to the same font family of a font that has not the "embedding" bit set. Everything without warning from OOo, at least for the time being: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=72910 Sometimes, you discovers these glitches because the PDF size is strange or grows out of control. Sometimes, you don't realize what is happening and simply go ahead with your work. Maybe, breaching the font license. Then, about font files that directly include license text: that is the right approach. Nevertheless, there should be a technical mean that shows those terms and clauses to the application end user in a human readable way. For example, GPL license text says: "An interactive user interface displays “Appropriate Legal Notices” to the extent that it includes a convenient and prominently visible feature that (1) displays an appropriate copyright notice, and (2) tells the user that there is no warranty for the work (except to the extent that warranties are provided), that licensees may convey the work under this License, and how to view a copy of this License. If the interface presents a list of user commands or options, such as a menu, a prominent item in the list meets this criterion." I know this legal "stuff" for fonts is extremely annoying and most people doesn't care at all about it until a lawyer - or worse, an public attorney in those countries in which software piracy is a criminal law affair - contacts them. Finally, it would be interesting to know *how* a font could be embedded by respecting OpenDocument 1.2 specification. I'm not a developer and I'm just curious. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]