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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 18 01:26:50 +0000 
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Hi, thanks for the reply.

I am not sure that the spec fully addresses my, or the OPs, suggestions. I can't
see how it makes figures, tables, lists, appendices or list-of-figures etc any
easier.

It might help if I give an example of an outline as I would like to see it work
(see below). If you think the spec makes it easy to do what I describe, then 
great.

But from my reading of the spec, and based on the example (below), what I think
is needed is one of the following options:

Option 1
--------

(a) Associate a paragraph format with a specific counter. This counter will
increment each time any paragraph format that references it is used.

(b) Allow the specification of a parent counter in a paragraph style. When the
parent increments, the child is reset.

(c) eg. 'Chapter' could have counter name 'ChapterCounter', parent 'None'.
'Heading1' would have counter name 'Heading1Counter', parent 'ChapterCounter',
'Heading2' would have 'Heading2Counter', parent 'Heading1Counter'.

(d) Based on the example, 'Heading1Bold' format would share counter
'Heading1Counter', parent 'ChapterCounter'

(e) Figure would have 'FigureCounter', parent 'ChapterCounter'

(f) Remove the 'Outline Level' from the paragraph format. It is determined from
the inheritance of the counters.

(g) Add a 'Numbering Format' setting to the paragraph style to set the format of
the current level. Other formats inherited from parent (this makes the Appendix
formats work). ie. heading1 inside appendix would be numbered A-1.

I would suggest adding parenting options to the existing counters dialog, rather
than the paragraph dialog since the parenting should not be different across
different formats.


Option 2.
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(a) not only associate a level with a paragraph format, but also associate a
user-defined, named, 'CounterFamily' with the format.

(b) Each style can specify an optional parent counter family and parent level.

(c) chapter/heading style paragraphs are just in one family with no parent.

(d) figures/tables/plates/maps would each have their own family, with a parent
of 'Chapter/Heading familt, level 1'.

(e) Build ToC, LoF, LoT etc based on selected paragraph styles at each level
(manually selected). Allow multiple different formats at same level (eg.
Heading1Bold, below)

(f) Add a 'Numbering Format' setting to the paragraph style to set the format of
the current level. Other formats inherited from parent (this makes the Appendix
formats work).


Example of desired outcome
==========================

Chapter 1. This is paragraph format 'Chapter'.
1.1 This is format 'Heading 1'. First digit is from 'Chapter'
This is just some body text, I wont add more.
1.1.1 This is 'Heading 2'. Inherits from 'Heading 1'
Figure 1-1. This is paragraph format 'Figure'. Inherits from 'Chapter'
1.2 Another H1
(1) This is format 'list'. 
(2) list items should auto number as nicely as paragraphs.
1.3 Another H1 (here just to show how figures work, see below).
Figure 1-2. 'Figure' again. Note the counter is independant of 'Heading 1'
(1) Another list. They should also reset to (1)
(2) ...either inside any outline style, 
(3) ...or by some setting in the paragraph style (checkbox?).
(4) ...so you would define a ListFirst and a List style.
*1.4* The is 'Heading1Bold' style. See the TOC, below.
Chapter 2. Nothing really to see here. Move on to appendix.
Appendix A. This would just be a format inherited from Chapter, I expect.
A.1 Heading 1. ie. Heading 1 inherits outer number from parent.
A.2 ...I guess worst case we could define HeadingAppendix1 paragraph format.
Figure A-1. Just like the figures above.
Figure A-1(a). A format 'Sub-Figure'
Table A-1. Should have mentioned this earlier
Map A-1. ...there is a huge variety of things that should be
Plate A-1 ...independantly numbered, with the possibility
Plate A-1(a) ...of sub numbering.

In the TOC we would have:

TOC
===

Chapter 1. This is paragraph format 'Chapter'.
1.1 This is format 'Heading 1'. First digit is from 'Chapter'
This is just some body text, I wont add more.
1.1.1 This is 'Heading 2'. Inherits from 'Heading 1'
1.2 Another H1
1.3 Another H1 (here just to show how figures work, see below).
*1.4* The is 'Heading1Bold' style. See the TOC, below.
Chapter 2. Nothing really to see here. Move on to appendix.
Appendix A. This would just be a format inherited from Chapter, I expect.
A.1 Heading 1. ie. Heading 1 inherits outer number from parent.
A.2 ...I guess worst case we could define HeadingAppendix1 paragraph format.


In the List-of-Figures we would have:

Figure 1-1. This is paragraph format Figures. Inherits from 'Chapter'
Figure 1-2. 'Figure' again. Note the counter is independant of 'Heading 1'
Figure A-1. Just like the figures above.
Figure A-1(a). A format 'Sub-Figure'

And we could also have a list-of-maps, list-of-tables etc etc.


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