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------- Additional comments from e...@openoffice.org Mon Aug 10 01:15:06 +0000
2009 -------
@thing: I do understand you want to follow the trend but...
- Our *default* shortcuts have moved over the years to follow both OS/WM
standards AND internal (OOo) consistency. This point is in itself a big
challenge, quite a paradox... Meaning: you want the same shortcuts in OOo across
OS AND shortcuts which are compliant with the OS while OSs don't comply between
each other... as you say: "the rationale is to support both native and cross
platform use of OOo" (=paradox), so what should we do?
- when someone wants a different *default* shortcut, we usually say "Tools -
Customize - Keyboard - 'do it yourself'", why? Because our defaults are a
fragile edifice which *tries* to be consistent inside of OOo (Calc, Writer...),
with the current OS AND across the OS. So we will NEVER make everybody happy
while changing our default because an other OOo App, an other OS needs *this*
shortcut for something else... Do you get the dilemma?
Well, now I guess you will get it:
- you proposed to re-map F11 to F12. Fine! But - as you said - you have no
alternative for F12 (which is "Numbering/Bullets" in Writer and "Group
Row/Column" in Calc, both shortcuts which are, I think, VERY used in both apps
since years).
I do understand what you mean but what I stated above should make you think
about "is the default shortcut implementation I proposed worth the effort?".
You are right, it's worth thinking about it but not worth WE (core developers,
UX, QA) think about it right now. So, instead of closing this issue as WONTFIX
(meaning: it's too "peanuts" to be done) or reassigning to the endless pile of
REQUIREMENTS, I will reassign it back to you with the requirements to:
1) Find unused shortcuts for F12 in Calc and Writer which are the same for both
applications AND don't collide with existing shortcuts.
2) Those shortcuts should avoid Ctrl+(Shift)+Letter which are most of the time
*localized* or should adapt to the different localizations...
Have fun! >;)
Last advices: once you have found suiting shortcuts fulfilling all those
requirements, please explain your needs & findings on disc...@ux.openoffice.org.
There you will get attention and more proposals and can start a team in order to
move the things forward.
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