Plugger Lockett <plugger.lock...@gmail.com> writes:

> Sorry Keith and Bdale. I just received this message and I can't help but
> think gmail isn't the root cause of this problem. I routinely go into my
> spam/junk folder and mark Altusmetrum mailing list messages as "not
> spam"

Yep, our latest 1.9.11 announce email appears to have generated bounce
messages for every recipient using gmail.

Chasing the error messages I'm seeing, it appears that gmail has gotten
relatively vicious about accepting email from other sites that aren't
implementing a pile of email anti-spam measures they've decided are
important.  I suspect they think this is a great idea to protect gmail
users from random spam sources, but it sure feels from where I sit like
at best a "you're guilty until proven innocent" thing. 

I've already made some additions to my config, but clearly my gag.com
email relay is not yet satisfying Google.  I'll work on this as I have
time, but in the meantime, I guess all I can say is "sorry" to anyone
subscribed to our list who uses gmail. 

Bdale

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