Hello Fred,
Thanks for your reply that I can actually get something from.
It's a big improvement on your first effort.
I will have a look at how folders and files can be managed from AA
and see what I can learn.
Regards,
BrianB2.
--- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What I think is that this issue is at best trivial ...
>
> Beyond that I'd prefer to use a file manager to manage files and
> there's no need to close AB prior to playing with folders ...
>
> Beyond that if you insist in doing stuff like this from within AB
> then there are more then enough tools already (Pick from the AA
> Window for example) that let you walk folders and files from which
> you can delete whatever you like ...
>
> --- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "brian.z123" <brian.z123@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Fred,
> >
> > Do you think it is better to close AmiBroker, go to Windows
> Explorer
> > and manage database deletion from there (you will have to
remember
> > which database you last nominated as the default in
> > tools/preferences)
> >
> > OR
> >
> > go to AB file/delete whilst Amibroker is open and delete the old
> > databases from there?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > BrianB2.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <ftonetti@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What ??? ... No MP3 Player ?! ... and I was so hoping that
> > eventually
> > > I'd automatically get a popup video that would not only show
me
> > the
> > > error of my ways in coding and of course automatically fix
them,
> > but
> > > would also perform the same function for non profitable
> > systems ...
> > > Waaaaaaa ...
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@yahoogroups.com, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Just few thoughts about things you mentioned in your reply.
> > > >
> > > > > I made it quite clear that I was referring to 'industry
> > standard'
> > > > > features that are lacking in the program in general
> > > >
> > > > There are no "industry standard" features lacking in the
> program
> > in
> > > general.
> > > > AmiBroker features GUI fully conforming to LATEST UI
standards,
> > > > including most modern UI look ("Whidbey or 2006 look").
> > > > For more info see:
> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_customizeui.html
> > > >
> > > > Actually no other T/A platform has such modern, aestetical
and
> > > configurable
> > > > interface as AmiBroker has.
> > > >
> > > > Just install any other T/A software and you will quickly see
> > > > how outdated they are compared to AmiBroker when it comes to
UI.
> > > >
> > > > > ... and the workspace in particular
> > > >
> > > > I don't know exactly what you mean with the workspace. The
old
> > > workspace pane is gone
> > > > in 4.80 as all tabs are now fully configurable and
detachable.
> > > >
> > > > If you mean symbol tree or chart tree then there are several
> > ideas
> > > floating around
> > > > how to make it better but it functionality outpaces most
other
> > T/A
> > > softwares
> > > > (for example Metastock has no built in support for
categories
> at
> > > all and
> > > > its indicator list is flat (without folders at all) ).
> > > >
> > > > That said it does not mean that things can not be made even
> > better.
> > > >
> > > > > My proposition is that 'Microsoft like' GUI operating
> features
> > > are a
> > > > > defacto industry standard (sorry Mac, Linux users etc - I
> > don't
> > > know
> > > > > anything about those systems).
> > > >
> > > > I wrote you : AmIBroker GUI already features newest
> > and "coolest"
> > > and
> > > > up-to most recent Microsoft-fashion GUI design in T/A world.
> > > >
> > > > I am afraid you mixup two things: you say GUI when thinking
> > about
> > > some
> > > > particular feature such as for example updating your watch
list
> > > from AmiQuote
> > > > (instead of full symbol list). This isn't GUI. This is a
> > > convenience feature.
> > > >
> > > > As to:
> > > >
> > > > > Easy management of old/trial databases.
> > > > > Allow removal of parts of database that are known to be
> > incorrect
> > > > > while retaining other parts.
> > > > > REPLY by Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > > status - Closed
> > > > > Status - Functionality exists
> > > >
> > > > why did I close this issue ? Simply because it is:
> > > > a) achievable simply using Windows Explorer - you can delete
> > > database files/directories.
> > > > The meaning of files is described in the User's Guide:
> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_workspace.html
> > > > and
> > > > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/x_files.html
> > > >
> > > > b) rarely used once you start actual trading.
> > > > It could be used more often in phase when you
> > are "experimenting"
> > > but
> > > > once you are done with experiments and start trading the
need
> to
> > > delete database
> > > > may appear once or twice a week at most. So I don't see any
> > problem
> > > in using
> > > > Windows Explorer once or twice a week.
> > > >
> > > > I understand that you would like to have everything included
> > (maybe
> > > MP3 player too),
> > > > but for me it has such low priority that I have to scratch
that
> > as
> > > there are things
> > > > hundreds of times more important than this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If I don't post any new examples in the future it will
only
> be
> > > > > because I choose to conserve my energy and/or that I am
not
> > > entirely
> > > > > comfortable in the feedback center (it is not democratic
> > enough
> > > for
> > > > > my liking).
> > > >
> > > > Well democracy may be good idea for ruling countries,
> > > > but when it comes to software development there has to be
> someone
> > > > who directs the show and is responsible for the whole thing.
> > > > Democracy in software development does not exist. Even open
> > source
> > > > projects have "leaders" that ultimately decide and their
> > decision
> > > is final and binding.
> > > >
> > > > Still you will find AmiBroker one of the most user-oriented
> > company
> > > in T/A software world,
> > > > listening to users and implementing features asked for.
> > > >
> > > > AmiBroker is written entirely by me so I fully control its
> > > development and
> > > > direction in which it evolves.
> > > > While you are welcome to suggest things please do not expect
me
> > to
> > > explain each and every decision of mine.
> > > > I have good reasons to do what I do and I am doing my best
to
> > make
> > > good decisions.
> > > > My goal is to get most bang for the buck. When it comes to
> > > marketing it means that you get great program for low price.
> > > > When it comes to development it means to spend time on most
> > > critical features and features used by majority first and
postpone
> > > > less important / rarely used things.
> > > >
> > > > The fact that AmiBroker is around for 11 years now means
that
> my
> > > choices were not that bad.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > amibroker.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "brian.z123" <brian.z123@>
> > > > To: <amibroker@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:46 AM
> > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Indicator Maintenance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Tomasz,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your reply and consideration of my points.
> > > > >
> > > > > I made it quite clear that I was referring to 'industry
> > standard'
> > > > > features that are lacking in the program in general and
the
> > > > > workspace in particular so it is not a fair response that
you
> > > only
> > > > > refer to a few particular features that are actually
> available
> > in
> > > > > one 'pane' of the workspace alone.
> > > > >
> > > > > I specifically acknowledged that I was wearing my 'new
user'
> > hat
> > > and
> > > > > that my arguments were 'off the top of my head' (it is
> > generally
> > > > > accepted in 'creative or problem solving' sessions that it
is
> > > best
> > > > > not to censor the output in the intitial phase).
> > > > > I don't think you will find one single example in any post
I
> > have
> > > > > made in any forum where I have failed to back up my
> > > opening 'silly'
> > > > > statements if challenged (there are one or two exceptions
> > where I
> > > > > withdrew but that was done to protect others, not me).
> > > > > I also already conceded; 'That (my comments are) of
> course ...
> > > only
> > > > > a personal opinion and perhaps my views will change as I
> spend
> > > more
> > > > > time in the program.'
> > > > >
> > > > > Ergonomics is a relatively new word.
> > > > > One way it is used is as a measure of 'energy efficiency
> > within
> > > work
> > > > > processes'.
> > > > > That is what I meant when I used it and within the context
of
> > > > > computer programs my measure of ergonomic efficiency is
the
> > > number
> > > > > of mouse clicks required to perform a set task and also
the
> > ease
> > > > > with which we can replicate that task at a later date
(from
> > > memory?)
> > > > >
> > > > > My Office assistant is turned off and always has been.
> > > > >
> > > > > I stand by my comments that AB lacks ergonomics, training
and
> > > detail
> > > > > in part or partss.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My Proposition:
> > > > >
> > > > > My proposition is that 'Microsoft like' GUI operating
> features
> > > are a
> > > > > defacto industry standard (sorry Mac, Linux users etc - I
> > don't
> > > know
> > > > > anything about those systems).
> > > > > My expectation of programs is that they will equal or
surpass
> > > > > the 'industry standard'.
> > > > > Of course that is a very general statement that can't be
> > easily
> > > > > debated without specific examples and in this case I
didn't
> > > provide
> > > > > any.
> > > > > All I ask, at any time, is that each suggestion is
considered
> > on
> > > its
> > > > > own merit and not 'marked' according to the status of the
> > poster
> > > or
> > > > > the prejudices of individual forum members.
> > > > > My confidence in that area is a little down at the moment.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Re: a specific example from within the database of
existing
> > posts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
******************************************************************
> > > > >
> > > > > Post #195 from the feedback center.
> > > > > subject - delete old databases from file menu
> > > > >
> > > > > I said:
> > > > > Consider selection of partial deletions for anything than
can
> > be
> > > > > separated out i.e retain data and delete categories
> > > > > (broker workspace) and vice-versa, layouts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > Easy management of old/trial databases.
> > > > > Allow removal of parts of database that are known to be
> > incorrect
> > > > > while retaining other parts.
> > > > > If database is current or default AB will 'know' and make
> > > > > announcement and/or adjustment.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You said:
> > > > > REPLY by Tomasz Janeczko
> > > > > status - Closed
> > > > > Status - Functionality exists
> > > > >
> > > > > If you mean most recently used database list in File menu -
> > non-
> > > > > existing folders ALREADY gets deleted from the menu.
> > > > > Just delete the directory using Windows explorer and next
> time
> > > you
> > > > > run AmiBroker it won't show up in the File menu.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> *******************************************************************
> > > > >
> > > > > Admittedly I did not explain myself very well at the
feedback
> > > > > center, but I did follow up later with an email via
support
> > that
> > > > > clarified and detailed my case.
> > > > > You could have also asked for further clarification at the
> > > feedback
> > > > > center if you weren't sure what I meant.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the 'industry standard' for file management within
> > > programs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Go to the program file menu and delete the old program
> > > > > files/databases that the user no longer requires.
> > > > > View all of the program files/databases in a hierarchical
> tree
> > > and
> > > > > enact commands from there.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the AB standard?
> > > > >
> > > > > Close AB (or go out of AB?), go to Windows Explorer and
> delete
> > > old
> > > > > databases from there.
> > > > >
> > > > > What specific delete features could AB provide that MS can
> not
> > be
> > > > > expected to?
> > > > >
> > > > > If the user attempts to delete a database that is selected
in
> > AB
> > > > > preferences as the default, Windows Explorer will not
delete
> > it.
> > > > > If file/delete existed in AB the user could be given a
> > > message 'this
> > > > > database can not be deleted as it is the default. To
delete
> > this
> > > > > database go to tools etc'.
> > > > >
> > > > > The AB database folder also contains components that have
> > extra
> > > > > relevance to the user. The user might want to keep the
symbol
> > > > > lists/categories and just delete all price data.
> > > > > File/delete in AB could provide users with appropriate
delete
> > > > > options to do that type of thing and also warn as to the
> > > > > consequences of each action.
> > > > >
> > > > > The above, existing case, is a reasonable example of
> > > the 'industry
> > > > > standard'/AB gap.
> > > > > At the least it is worthy of consideration and discussion.
> > > > > If I don't post any new examples in the future it will
only
> be
> > > > > because I choose to conserve my energy and/or that I am
not
> > > entirely
> > > > > comfortable in the feedback center (it is not democratic
> > enough
> > > for
> > > > > my liking).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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