Just as a side note - a tip of the hat to the oft-time phenomenal 
band conditions that can exist on 40m in the DAYTIME hours
for a good AM contact....

I have known 40m to produce some great S9+2-dB signals from 
simple 30-40 watt AM transmitters over rather short distances - say 
out to around 50 to 250 miles that would blow your mind.
The biggest hindrance is not always the propagation, but the lack
of other stations looking for a QSO.

I well remember living in Maryland  and working guys over in 
Virginia running rigs like DX40s and T-60s and they would come 
banging in at 20-30 dB over S-9 at around 10 or 11 a.m. on 
a Saturday morning. By 2 or 3 pm you couldn't even hear them 
at all. Or they would begin to be buried in the foreign broadcast crap.

If only more people would take advantage of those conditions.

From:                   "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1...@gmail.com>

> Rob, I don't think that is what Jim is suggesting at all. Rather, he is
> likely referring to the 'dead air' groups who leave a radio running to
> listen for their buddies, but aren't in QSO. You can listen to the frequency
> for long periods with no activity. But call CQ or ask if the frequency is in
> use, and they jump on you. Since they see it as 'their' frequency, no one
> else should be using it.
> 
> I don't think anyone would advocate loading up and transmitting on a
> frequency already in use. It's obviously a good to listen for a while since
> there maybe someone transmitting that you don't hear. An ongoing problem for
> the AMer on 40 is getting some activity going on a frequency before the busy
> time of night kicks in. 7.160 is as good a place as any, but only if someone
> is there to use it. Otherwise, find an open area and throw out a call. After
> the dinner hour for most of us, the band is in full swing with DX. So
> earlier is better.
> 
> 73 -
> 
> ~ Todd,  KA1KAQ/4
> 
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Rob Atkinson <ranchoro...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Jim,
> >
> > If you want to fire up ur rig and call CQ on 7160 when there is a qso
> > on 7161, 7158 or 7162 be my guest, it is your station not mine, but
> > where I come from, we call people who do that lids.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Rob K5UJ
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Jim Wilhite <w...@brightok.net> wrote:
> > > There are people like that everywhere and if you don't hear any activity
> > > for more than a minute or two, then that is too bad.  Many operators
> > > listen to a frequency and claim ownership.  Just call and if I hear you
> > > and have time, I will answer and talk to you as time permits.
> > >
> > > Don't let those silent types hinder your operation.  It is just as much
> > > your spectrum as theirs, no matter what the mode.
> > >
> > > Jim/W5JO
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >>I also check 7160 but am hesitant to start calling CQ because whenever
> > >> I check it, there are SSB qsos all over it every 2 khz or so.
> > >>
> > >> 73
> > >>
> > >> rob k5uj
> > >>
> > >
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