BTW:

I passed the 2nd Class Phone exam in 1958 with the same knowledge necessary 
for the General.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
 "Real Radios Glow In The Dark!"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Macklin" <macklin...@msn.com>
To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" 
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Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Extra Class License


>I passed the General exam in 1957 mostly with waht I leaned in USAF Radar
> Schaool and some reading in the ARRL handbook. We had to draw schematics 
> and
> work math problems. No multiple guess. We could use a sliderule for thos
> problems in those days.
>
> I took the Extra exam this year after being pushed by friends to do so. I
> looked at the question pool twicwe then just took the test with what
> knowledge i had. I got 80% correct. I personally think the current Extra
> exam is a bunch of BS! Too much computer BS in it. My weak area was the
> satalite stuff which I did not want to spend time learning since I will
> never use it.
>
> Bob Macklin
> K5MYJ
> Seattle, Wa.
> "Real Radios Glow In The Dark!"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bernie Doran" <qedconsulta...@embarqmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service"
> <amradio@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Extra Class License
>
>
>> Hi Tom: I respectful have to disagree with you. the extra that I passed
>> was
>> far simpler that the general examination that I took in 1954. for that
>> test
>> one had to correctly draw circuits, my test required a Hartley oscillator
>> and a neutralized push pull triode amplifier and I believe a few others.
>> I
>> took a first phone the same year and found it to be about the same as the
>> extra of those days. I never took the twenty WPM as the best I could copy
>> was about 22 and I figuired that was not enough of a buffer, plus the
>> bands
>> were the same for extra and general at that time.    I would like to hear
>> comments from others that took the general/extra back in the 50s and see
>> what they thought, I guess the best thing would be track down an old
>> license
>> manual.     73 Bernie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Thomas F. Giella NZ4O" <n...@tampabay.rr.com>
>> To: "AM ra...@qth.net" <amradio@mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 2:50 PM
>> Subject: [AMRadio] Extra Class License
>>
>>
>>> Bernie Said:
>>> .....And yes, I know this has been brought up before, and yes I know
>>> there
>>> are generals, not
>>> an excuse for most, a few hours with the license manual and you are an
>>> extra. I talked with a 13 year girl a while back that was an 
>>> extra!!.....
>>>
>>> NZ4O Says:
>>> It really get's old hearing the Extra Class license denigrated on this
>>> email
>>> list. I have a BS in Meteorology, an MS in Space Plasma Physics and an
>>> above
>>> average IQ but could not memorize all of the answers to all of the
>>> questions
>>> in the current Extra Class license question pool. I had to study and
>>> understand the material over a period of a few months to pass the test 
>>> on
>>> the first try.
>>>
>>> 99.9% of the people that denigrate the current Extra Class question pool
>>> as
>>> being so easy that the answers to the questions can be memorized in 
>>> short
>>> order, CAN NOT ACCOMPLISH THAT FEAT. Since the Morse code requirement 
>>> was
>>> reduced to 5 wpm and then ultimately to zilch (which I did not agree
>>> with)
>>> the question pools have been toughened.
>>>
>>> The average Extra Class ham that passed the written rest 10-20 years ago
>>> could not pass the current exam without real study.
>>>
>>> 73 & GUD DX,
>>> Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O
>>> Lakeland, FL, USA
>>> n...@arrl.net
>>>
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