Hi Samudra, Hey - don't worry about ruffling feathers. The more we discuss it, the better understood ITAR will be.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz Samudra Haque wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Bill Ress <b...@hsmicrowave.com> wrote: >> But ALL US citizens and foreign permanent residents must be very careful >> about the more sinister part of ITAR called DEEMED EXPORTS. That's where you >> discuss certain ITAR controlled satellite hardware or technology issues with >> a foreign national, with which you do not not have a State Department >> technical exchange agreement, whether this foreign national is in this >> country or you contact them by phone, internet or other forms of >> communication. So while you can work on an AMSAT-NA satellite project that >> has aspects controlled by ITAR, because you are a legal permanent resident, >> you can't email your parents, if they are foreign nationals, to discuss >> those ITAR restricted subjects, whether they are in the US or a foreign >> country. If you do, it is "deemed to be exported" without ITAR approval and >> serious penalties can result. >> > > Yes, I usually take care to divide my correspondence amongst the > particular groups I am working with, and this is also the basis in > which I recently proposed moving to (a) moderated forum (such as > phpBB) or (b) sub-dividing the amsat-bb list into amsat-engineering > (ITAR restricted) and amsat-user (open to all) lists. If moderation is > not possible, practical or simply open to all is the order of the day, > at least we can move the ITAR stuff (development centric stuff) to a > closed list format and ensure what is said and done is always in > compliance (i.e., track of who say what and documents are marked > restricted for circulation) etc. > > The AMSAT-BB is the real funny way of becoming ITAR compliant (while > we are under ITAR, lets not forget we have responsibilities) so, until > the day that ITAR is not applicable to us, AMSAT-BB should be > restricted to open questions, user questions etc. no blanket mail > concerning tech details from the US side. However, for the specific > engineering stuff I suggest that whoever administers the list should > consider a security protocol and a secure file area for this > compliance issue, hopefully not on the same machine as amsat-bb to > avoid any chance of overlap. > > Sorry if I ruffle a few feathers here, this an important issue for me too ! > > Samudra, N3RDX > _______________________________________________ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
