Because we asked that we be treated in exactly the manner you described and were rebuffed.
Bob John P. Toscano wrote: > Bob McGwier wrote: >> ANY aspect dealing with a satellite, software, hardware, ground >> stations (hardware, software, protocols, etc.), ideas, random >> ejaculations from a diseased mind or whatever that deals with >> spacecraft or ground stations are DEEMED EXPORTS when they depart a >> U.S. citizen and are delivered to a non-U.S. citizen. It is a nearly >> impossible task to abide by and one that really makes me want to >> throw my hands up in despair and walk away. >> >> There are exceptions for classrooms and courses taught in U.S. >> university's. A person, even a non-U.S. citizen, who can pay for >> taking a course, may go and involve themselves in course work, even >> if it is dealing with the design, construction, and control of >> spacecraft during the course work. Some of this applies to your >> earlier questions but for US service academies, there are very few >> non-U.S. citizens in them. > > Bob: > > I would not dream of second-guessing you for a moment, since you are > fully engaged in this stuff and I am simply an interested observer. > > However, why doesn't the following quotation directly from the ITAR > regulations provide the exemption we need? The quotation comes from > the section that defines what are the items that are covered by ITAR: > > ITAR Part 121 - The United States Munitions List > > -----------------------< begin quote >------------------------------- > > Category XV - Spacecraft Systems and Associated Equipment > > *(a) Spacecraft, including communications satellites, remote sensing > satellites, scientific satellites, research satellites, navigation > satellites, experimental and multi-mission satellites. > > *NOTE TO PARAGRAPH (a): Commercial communications satellites, > scientific satellites, research satellites, and experimental > satellites are designated as SME only when the equipment is intended > for use by the armed forces of any foreign country. > > -----------------------< end quote >--------------------------------- > > Note that SME refers to "Significant Military Equipment" > > Paragraph (a) seems to cover everything and anything having to do with > satellites, but the asterisk and "NOTE" attached to it seems to say > that an Amateur radio satellite for use by Amateurs instead of foreign > armed forces should be exempted, doesn't it? > > Granted, I realize that we have already lost one argument with ITAR > about our past cooperation with AMSAT-DL, but is there some compelling > reason why the lawyers didn't point out this exception? > > Just wondering... > If I had to guess the answer myself, after looking at the horribly > convoluted language of the small piece of the ITAR regulations that I > have looked at, there is probably another paragraph elsewhere that > effectively says, "we were just kidding when we said that it had to be > used by foreign armed forces, we really mean it to cover everything" > > John > W0JT > > > -- (Co)Author: DttSP, Quiktrak, PowerSDR, GnuRadio Member: ARRL, AMSAT, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. "You don't need to see the whole staircase, just take the first step.", MLK. Twitter:rwmcgwier Active: Facebook,Myspace,LinkedIn _______________________________________________ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
