I couldn't agree more with Tim. It is easier to get a card out of Bhutan than it is from some of these VHF ops that operate on a regular basis. I would love to print the list of calls that I have here that will just not respond to an SASE. I won't because I'm typically castigated whenever I bring the issue up. I realize this is a hobby as the defenders of the non-QSLers love to point out but replying to a card is part of that hobby. Or used to be. At least post prominently wherever your call is displayed that you won't QSL. Or something.
Steve, N4JQQ, EM55 On 1/24/2011 1:36 PM, Tim Marek wrote: > John and the rest of you LOTW doubters... > > The costs to use LOTW for VUCC, DXCC, or WAS contact credits IS > NOTHING compared to the time, effort and money needed to collect cards > the old fashioned way! At near a buck a card domestically (Over 2$ > Internationally) for the stamps to send them and as well as a SASE for > their return.... all the waiting.... Lost or stolen mail, People who > NEVER reply, followed by dealing with the cards after their collected, > the hand sorting and filling in paper forms... what a royal pain and > more importantly... a very inneficient way to do things... > > With the new LOTW system, you simply upload your logs, wait for them > to cross confirm with other uploaded logs, spend less than 20 cents > per QSO to INSTANTLY use those QSL credits for awards, with little > muss or fuss... > > I really dont see what the problems is.... Its faster, safer, cheaper, > and your log data is backed up forever.... Talk about a lasting legacy > of your efforts! > > Compared to the OLD FASHIONED way of handling the laborious chore of > QSLing, LOTW is a God send saving me much time, money, and alot of > hand writing that I truly hate. (Try living in a rare state and you > will understand) > > As one who has personally activated 57 grids at one time or another > (Alot of them RARE), there is now a incentive to sort out and upload > all those logs from the past 20 years. Not only will it help others > who need those rare grids (CM86, CM95, CM96, CN90, CN91, CN92, DN00, > DN10, DN11, DN20, DM07, DM17, DM18, DM19, DM27, DM28, and DM29 just to > name a few) but... I can now file for additional 6M VUCC's from > several of those grids as they were June Contest efforts from tall > mountains with large antennas and KW power where more than 100 Grids > was easily accomplished... > > Think about it... "Nothing Is Free"... the prices they ask are > reasonable, and once uploaded who better to back up your logs than > those whom you apply to for the awards! > > Personally, I dont understant why everyone isn't getting setup right > now to dump their logs online to (at the very least protect those rare > and precious contacts from being lost forever) and collect those > contact credits w/o lifting a pen to paper or licking a single stamp... > > 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09nm.... sk > > PS: I have been pushing LOTW for years to make this happen. Its not > perfect, but compared to the old ways, its a VAST IMPROVEMENT! > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" <aa...@fidmail.com> > To: <mlolms...@fuse.net>; "Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org" <amsat-bb@amsat.org>; > "'VHF REFLECTOR'" <v...@w6yx.stanford.edu> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:07 PM > Subject: [VHF] Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs > > >> I WAS going to get an endorsement for my satellite and six meter >> VUCCs, but given that it would cost me around 35 dollars each to get >> an endorsement for an extra 150 grids, I don't think so. Hope this >> new insane fee schedule doesn't kill VUCC submissions. I think AMSAT >> awards will be getting much more popular. 73s John AA5JG >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <mlolms...@fuse.net> >> To: <amsat-bb@amsat.org> >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:25 PM >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs >>> Nice explanation of the costs for VUCC in the Jeff Yanko blog. >>> However, I did not see what happens with LOTW submisions. >>> If the cost of awards keep going up, maybe the ARRL should offer >>> award insurance as well as equipment insurance. Just a thought. :>) >>> Merle, AA4QE > ------ > Submissions: v...@w6yx.stanford.edu > Subscription/removal requests: vhf-requ...@w6yx.stanford.edu > Human list administrator: vhf-appro...@w6yx.stanford.edu > List rules and information: http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/vhf/ > > _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
