Yes, I agree with Tim wholeheartedly. Paper cards are nice (I have a few from my Novice days in 1957) but I, like many others, cannot afford the expense. I *do* QSL 100% when a card is sent to me but LoTW is fine, too. To summarily reject LoTW, to invoke Mr. Spock, not logical ;>)
BTW, I use N1MM logger for all contests and ACLog for everything else...painless, easy and I can use the logging program on CW to cover for my rotten fist :>) 73, On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Tim Marek <k...@charter.net> wrote: > John and the rest of you LOTW doubters... > > The costs to use LOTW for VUCC, DXCC, or WAS contact credits IS NOTHING > compared to the time, effort and money needed to collect cards the old > fashioned way! At near a buck a card domestically (Over 2$ Internationally) > for the stamps to send them and as well as a SASE for their return.... all > the waiting.... Lost or stolen mail, People who NEVER reply, followed by > dealing with the cards after their collected, the hand sorting and filling > in paper forms... what a royal pain and more importantly... a very > inneficient way to do things... > > With the new LOTW system, you simply upload your logs, wait for them to > cross confirm with other uploaded logs, spend less than 20 cents per QSO to > INSTANTLY use those QSL credits for awards, with little muss or fuss... > > I really dont see what the problems is.... Its faster, safer, cheaper, and > your log data is backed up forever.... Talk about a lasting legacy of your > efforts! > > Compared to the OLD FASHIONED way of handling the laborious chore of > QSLing, LOTW is a God send saving me much time, money, and alot of hand > writing that I truly hate. (Try living in a rare state and you will > understand) > > As one who has personally activated 57 grids at one time or another (Alot > of them RARE), there is now a incentive to sort out and upload all those > logs from the past 20 years. Not only will it help others who need those > rare grids (CM86, CM95, CM96, CN90, CN91, CN92, DN00, DN10, DN11, DN20, > DM07, DM17, DM18, DM19, DM27, DM28, and DM29 just to name a few) but... I > can now file for additional 6M VUCC's from several of those grids as they > were June Contest efforts from tall mountains with large antennas and KW > power where more than 100 Grids was easily accomplished... > > Think about it... "Nothing Is Free"... the prices they ask are reasonable, > and once uploaded who better to back up your logs than those whom you apply > to for the awards! > > Personally, I dont understant why everyone isn't getting setup right now to > dump their logs online to (at the very least protect those rare and precious > contacts from being lost forever) and collect those contact credits w/o > lifting a pen to paper or licking a single stamp... > > 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09nm.... sk > > PS: I have been pushing LOTW for years to make this happen. Its not > perfect, but compared to the old ways, its a VAST IMPROVEMENT! > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geiger" <aa...@fidmail.com> > To: <mlolms...@fuse.net>; "Amsat-Bb@Amsat. Org" <amsat-bb@amsat.org>; > "'VHF REFLECTOR'" <v...@w6yx.stanford.edu> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:07 PM > Subject: [VHF] Re: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs > > > > I WAS going to get an endorsement for my satellite and six meter VUCCs, >> but given that it would cost me around 35 dollars each to get an endorsement >> for an extra 150 grids, I don't think so. Hope this new insane fee schedule >> doesn't kill VUCC submissions. I think AMSAT awards will be getting much >> more popular. 73s John AA5JG >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <mlolms...@fuse.net> >> To: <amsat-bb@amsat.org> >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 12:25 PM >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC costs >> >>> Nice explanation of the costs for VUCC in the Jeff Yanko blog. However, I >>> did not see what happens with LOTW submisions. >>> If the cost of awards keep going up, maybe the ARRL should offer award >>> insurance as well as equipment insurance. Just a thought. :>) >>> Merle, AA4QE >>> >> ------ > Submissions: v...@w6yx.stanford.edu > Subscription/removal requests: vhf-requ...@w6yx.stanford.edu > Human list administrator: vhf-appro...@w6yx.stanford.edu > List rules and information: http://www-w6yx.stanford.edu/vhf/ > -- Jack, W6NF Silver Springs, NV DM09ji Paper, LoTW and eQSL _______________________________________________ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
