On Fri, 05 May 2006 18:20:04 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou
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On Fri, 5 May 2006, Youness Alaoui wrote:
oh yeah, and btw, the 'Close' button in official client's menu, it puts
it in the tray.. which is I think the best default behavior.. but..
WHAAAAAT? The official client has a lot of bloat and stupidities, do we
have to copy it all? Come On............ Plus, aMSN's default behavior
now
is to close (just CLOSE), why change it?
CALM DOWN!!! yes, it has a lot of stupidities, but I didn't say we'd copy
it all.. what I meant as the best default behavior is that when you look
at windows, you ALWAYS have msn in the tray (rare are those who exit the
prog) so you can always access it, you almost never close it, if we do it
the same with amsn, then amsn will be a good 'replacement' for msn
messenger, replacement as in, it's always opened, it's in the tray if you
don't need it... it's the IM buddy that follows you whatever you do on
your pc until you need it, then you call it...
still allow users to configure it as they want.. an additional 'Exit'..
humm.. I'm skeptical.. I would say maybe, but if yes, only at the
condition of :
instead of having :
Close
Exit
have :
Minimize to tray
Exit
Yes, sounds good :)
or something like that to make sure the diff between both...
btw, while in the design, we should think, right now, and with the
experts help on the accelerators we should have!!! bindings are lame,
ctrl-s, ctrl-d, and ctrl-p are the only ones I know.. I just realized
that the official client reacts ALOT to what I type in it (typing in the
CL will filter contacts, same as a search...) so we should define Ctrl-
Ctrl-Alt- Alt- bindings to something...
yeah, we have to make it more keyboard-friendly...
KKRT
On Fri, 05 May 2006 17:53:22 -0400, Vivia Nikolaidou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>On Fri, 5 May 2006, Harry Vennik wrote:
>
> > > [OFF] minimise instead of close -> in preferences
> > > This is something only set once. From usability point of view
> > > it's even wrong to minimise a window (to the tray) when the close
> > > button is used as this should do the same as the "close" entry in
the
> > > main menu. Though, this is an often requested feature, so it
should
> > > be kept, and it's place is in the preferences window.
> >
> >I do not agree 100% here, but I think you're close. The tray icon
should
> >be regarded as a separate window. Pressing the close button or close
in
> >the main menu should both only close the window they're in, the main
> >window in this case. There should also be a 'Quit' or 'Exit' item
> >appended to the first menu that will terminate aMSN, and thus make
the
> >trayicon disappear too.
>
>No, no, please NOT. First, the average user won't see the difference
>between Close and Exit, I've never seen such a thing in any
applications.
>Second AND most important: the close button with the X in the program's
>main window is there for quitting the program, for goodness' sake! Yes
it
>is for closing the window they are in, but isn't this the same as the
icon
>down right, or the window in the taskbar? Then why shouldn't the Close
>button just close it and keep it in the taskbar (ie, minimized)? It's
like
>this in every program that I've seen, apart from some IMs which insist
on
>laughing at you: "you want to close me? Haha, you can't, I want to stay
>open!". One of the reasons why I first loved aMSN is that it obeyed to
the
>normal rule. Now that I saw that the HIG people think like this too,
I'm
>even capable of placing a veto here. Really.
>
>
>
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