On Wed, 24 May 2006 21:00:28 -0400 "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> lol @ your last sentence, nice though :) > You know how I feel about that, so you can count me in, as soon as I get > some time, I'll be doing some stuff.. right now I'm rewriting part of the > new CL that Karel wrote, making it even more modular and easy to use (his > current design was good, but it depended on an option available only in > tcl 8.5, so now I thought of another possible design/implementation and > I'm doing it, using a lot of what was already there). > so, you know about the wiki right, there's an amsn2 page in there with > what we first talked about, any ideas should go there. > The GUI could be a mix between different languages, I like Tk for its ease > of use, Qt is too crap to program and gnome, I don't know.. but usually > any GUI written in C/C++ is difficult to program (afaik, I could be > wrong). I don't want to put java in the debate because java's Achilles' > heel is the GUI (slow)... > the new CL is event driven, and we have the dbus extension for tcl we can > use... As long as it has DBUS extensions it would work fine. Also the main advantage of using tcl/tk is of course the cross-plaform aspect of it. Also the fact that all of the actual GUI code is already there and tested. Regards, Philippe > now that we got the 0.96 in a new branch, I think we're going to be more > active! > I suggest we branch into 2_0 for farsight/telepathy stuff... > the xml2gui project might be useless as it seems a similar thing already > exists and I think Tom would want to put TkHtml in... so I think tcl/tk > megawidgets with snit (like the clgui.tcl) and tkhtml for some fancy stuff > like bg images, and we got ourself a nice GUI... then we'll move the > events from protocol.tcl into telepathy2amsncore.c > > KKRT > > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:32:10 -0400, Philippe Khalaf > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > I have been reading the mailing list and I gather that people are > > getting rather bored. But the main problem is that everyone seems to be > > busy. In any case, I have sent a similar email before but I am doing it > > again. Now Telepathy is at a different stage of it's life. It's > > actually working now and a project like aMSN2 can be started. In case > > you guys don't know it, Telepathy is getting big and it will soon > > become an integral part of the Gnome desktop, and hopefully KDE. If > > aMSN2 was to be started, it would consist of 2 main projects : > > > > - An MSN connection manager for Telepathy (a kind of protocol plugin) : > > This is where the aMSN people can be very helpful since you all have a > > rather good knowledge of the MSN protocol and can write this easily. > > This of course can be written in a different language than TCL. Any > > language that has DBUS bindings will do (C/GLib, C++, QT Objects, > > python, etc). > > > > - An aMSN2 GUI. Brand new GUI. The cool thing about aMSN is it's > > feature list. The aMSN devels have come up with cool features that are > > actually useful and not just stupid little gadgets. This can be > > transported into a brand new UI that uses Telepathy, and it can be > > written with another toolkit like GTK or QT. A new UI can be started > > immediately using the Jabber connection manager (called gabble) while > > the MSN connection manager is being worked on. > > > > In other words, aMSN2 would be a completely different project, but I > > believe aMSN is what it is not because of tcl/tk and not because of it's > > pretty code :P but because of the features and feel that it has, and > > that is a direct reflection of the community that works on it. If the > > feel of aMSN can be maintained, it doesn't matter what back-end it uses, > > or what toolkit it's written in. It can only look better anyways :) > > > > There are a lot of positive things about moving on to Telepathy : > > - Put some life back into the project. > > - New languages and new skills to learn. I'm talking C, C++, GLib, GTK, > > QT, D-BUS or anything else we want. > > - New toolkit, new look. > > - Solid and well designed framework. > > - Getting in sync with the future. Telepathy is big now. We have a > > GUADEC main talk, we got 2 summer of code entries and we financially > > support the project. Any UIs or projects associated with it > > will also be big (aMSN is already big and can take it's popularity with > > it). > > - Transparent support for other protocols (jabber, oscar, etc). > > - Full audio/video support with Farsight. > > > > I will let you come up with any drawbacks or bad things about it. > > > > If anyone is interested in taking this direction. Tell me right now! I > > can definitely help out with managing such a project and designing > > anything that needs to be designed. Obviously I am very close to > > Telepathy and can help with anything in that regards as well. > > > > You guys want a spark here is your chance. Take it or leave it the > > Telepathy train is taking passengers but isn't slowing down! > > > > Regards, > > Philippe > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! > > Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications > > in > > the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=107521&bid=248729&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Amsn-devel mailing list > > Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel > > > > -- > KaKaRoTo > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! > Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in > the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. 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