Why are people asking for what they like, and not thinking about what is right... Yes, java development is really nice and fast! but java still has a lot of disadvantages for such a project, first, people hate it (:P), the JVM must be installed and is huge to download, so it's sad for dialup people. and yes, java is fast, it's even faster than C (really!) for processing, but the whole GUI part of Java is SLOW AS HELL, and yes, it is... also, please don't talk about that mercury crap :p I'm trying to think about what would be the most beneficial for all of us, as developers and for our users. So java is not the perfect solution (but not out of the way yet), and python/perl, pleaseeeee... we don't need any more integration/training phase.. + we need people to work, not stop bein motivated. Don't know about you python geeks, but in my case, I'm narrow minded and I don't want to know what python is :P (looks crappy to me)
KKRT On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:34:41 -0400, Bruno Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not an amsn developer (please, don't kill me), but if you guys are > going > to develop a MSN backend for telepathy I'm willing to implement a > java/swing > frontend! (and no, java isn't slow as hell, and yes, mercury is a bugged > piece of crap) :D > Apart from java I prefer python (maybe with pygtk)... > > By the way, is telepathy suported on windows? > > On 6/1/06, NoWhereMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Youness Alaoui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > python, NO, perl, NO... I know these languages are popular, but I just >> > hate the syntax, and especially python, I heard so much about it, but >> I >> > never even felt the need to look at what the code looks like, I just >> hate >> > it from the start... >> > Neither I like it so much, but maybe you have to think about it from >> the point of view of ease of use, more than beauty itself (even if I >> agree >> a >> little with you :)). >> really, it doesn't look that bad ;) >> And btw, you said you didn't like tcl as well :D >> >> > moreover, the main reason why we'd avoid python (if everyone agrees >> with >> > me), is that we're tcl/tk programmers here.. learning a new language, >> no >> > thanks... C code is for those who knows C code, and there are a few in >> > here, and it's still the standard programming language... >> > if we could get the hell out of tcl/Tk (or any interpreted language), >> I >> > would 100% do it, the only problem with C code is that it's hard to >> create >> > GUIs with it (I think, anyways, I'm still under the trauma of my Qt >> > course...), while in Tk, it's as easy as stealing a cnady from a kid >> (who >> > ever invented this quote???), which is why we want to stick to Tk for >> our >> > GUI. >> >> As I said, gtk doesn't look that bad in every programming language (gtk >> is >> C). pygtk is just a wrapper >> >> > What you have said though made me realize that we might be going the >> wrong >> > way in some stuff... >> > we could drop the whole interpreter thing, the Data/ structures could >> be >> > held in C structure (don't talk about C++ because of ABI, but C++ is >> the >> > nicest way to do it, I know!), and we could have a nice API to access >> > those... >> > and the GUI.. we could still use Tk inside C code with the Tk >> library... >> > no ? >> >> shoot me: I don't like how tk looks :D >> you have to compile yourself tcl/tk 8.5 just to have antialiased >> fonts... >> d'uh! >> >> > should we drop the .tcl files completly ? >> >> not to be repetitive (maybe you know it): >> http://tcl-gtk.sourceforge.net/:D >> ok, beat me :P >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Amsn-devel mailing list >> Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel >> > > > -- KaKaRoTo _______________________________________________ Amsn-devel mailing list Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel
