Op 28-mei-2007, om 15:30 heeft Karel Demeyer het volgende geschreven: > 2007/5/28, Harry Vennik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hmm, I don't see the point of putting the FT manager in the CL >> Window, it >> has simply nothing to do with the CL. > > The main window is not only about the CL, it's about aMSN on it's > whole !
Hmm, I wonder if many users would think of it that way. At least I don't. > >> I'd say we'd either embed it in the chat as I suggested (but Phil >> rejected >> that already), > As it would scroll away and make it impossible to watch while > chatting. > That's true, but why would you watch it all the time? Because of the nice progressbar with changing color? (j/k) Of course, you might want to check if the transfer has finished, but I won't mind scrolling back for that. There is one other problem however (which applies to some other proposed solutions too): What to do when the CW is closed before the FT completes? >> or have a separate FT manager window, just to have all FT's >> in one window, and to keep some FT history (so when you know that >> Mr X sent >> you some file yesterday, you can open the FT window, and you can >> see the >> completed FT from Mr X there...). Also it would be nice to have >> some way >> (right-click menu?) there that allows you to move the file from 'amsn >> received files' to somewhere else, or delete the file. This will >> allow a >> user to accept an FT, open the file to see if he likes it, if yes, >> put it in >> some sensible location, otherwise delete it. The look of the >> window could be >> similar to the Downloads window in Firefox or Safari. > > Which is all possible in my 1st idea, without having yet another > window open. This way, there's no ned to search for the window in you > window manager, it's in teh main amsn window most users will have on > their screen while using amsn anyway. I know that's possible, but I just wouldn't like to have that stuff in my CL window. >> >> Harry >> >> >> Op 28-mei-2007, om 14:58 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het >> volgende >> geschreven: >> >> I agree with Karel - we should have a tab in the main window. That >> way, >> if/when we have tabbed CLs for multiple logins then it can be just >> another >> tab on the end..? Or maybe different... >> >> On 28/05/07, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> So in a seperate window for non-tabbed-window users and in what >>> tabbed >>> window for ppl who use tabs per group ? Or only have the ft's of the >>> chats of a specific container in the FT tab of that container ? >>> So an >>> FT tab per container ? >>> You can 't start FT's from that FT tab either, don't you ? Doesn't >>> this make it more difficult to find ? Or silly ? >>> This means I can't chat with a person and see the status of the >>> FT on >>> the same moment ? I think it's very much needed to be able to see >>> the >>> status while your chatting wityh the person who sent the file or >>> you're sending a file to! (this can be done with both my ideas and a >>> FT manager in a seperate window) >>> >>> How is it simpler to make ? >>> >>> The question I have when I choose between my 2 ideas, is "is it >>> needed >>> to see all downloads in 1 place ?" ... will ppl have so much FT's >>> all >>> together so it's a needed feature sto see 'm both ? Because I'm not >>> yet sure of this I have two ideas. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> I would have thought about a FTManager tab in the Chat Window... >>>> Simple to make and better to see all your transfers for every Chat >>>> Putting this in Main window is silly IMO as you can't start a FT >>>> from >>>> here... >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> Karel Demeyer a écrit : >>>>> Idd. >>>>> >>>>>> From a usability standpoint, I think it would be best to have all >>>>> downloads in 1 FTmanager 'window', to avoid clutter and to make it >>>>> overseeable. But I think it would be even better to embed this >>>>> 'window' in the main amsn window to avoid clutter. In the caht >>>>> window >>>>> we could have a text saying (to check the status of this file >>>>> transfer, see the main window). >>>>> My idea is like this: >>>>> >>>>> | | >>>>> +--------------------------+ >>>>> | event log [v]| >>>>> +--------------------------+ >>>>> |File transfers: [-]| >>>>> +--------------------------+ >>>>> |Filename 1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| >>>>> | [======= ] | >>>>> | Open Cancel | >>>>> | | >>>>> |Filename 2 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| >>>>> | [======= ] | >>>>> | Open Cancel | >>>>> +--------------------------+ >>>>> >>>>> (watch with monospace font) >>>>> >>>>> when the [-] (button) is clicked, it should show: >>>>> >>>>> | | >>>>> +--------------------------+ >>>>> | event log [v]| >>>>> +--------------------------+ >>>>> |File transfers: [+]| >>>>> +--------------------------+ >>>>> >>>>> (to expand again, click [+]) >>>>> >>>>> Ideas, suggestions ? >>>>> >>>>> Another idea would be to have the file transfer UI be embedded >>>>> in the >>>>> chatwindow, on the tab of the chat where the ft was started, >>>>> but not >>>>> in the conversation itself but on the right of it (where the dp >>>>> of the >>>>> user is). This space is not used for anything else, and this >>>>> way the >>>>> FT stays with the chat. As they have a link, they are easy to >>>>> find >>>>> this way. As FT's are not amsn's main activity and I don't see >>>>> some >>>>> users doing a lot of FT's together this would still be >>>>> overseeable. >>>>> >>>>> Ideas here ? Suggestions ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Karel. >>>>> >>>>> 2007/5/28, Philippe Valembois - Phil < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>> Nooo ! ;) >>>>>> This idea from MSN is really bad : we always lost our FTs when >>>>>> we are >> in >>>>>> a deep conversation with someone. The FT Manager let us to see >> exactly >>>>>> what we have donloaded and so on... >>>>>> Phil >>>>>> >>>>>> Harry Vennik a écrit : >>>>>>> I think this is a very good idea. Would be better than 1 >>>>>>> window per >> FT. >>>>>>> An alternative would be, to integrate the progress indication >>>>>>> for FT >>>>>>> into the chat window. (a progressbar etc. in the notification >> message >>>>>>> that an FT invitation was sent). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Op 28-mei-2007, om 11:25 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I mean FT Manager of course... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 28/05/07, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* < >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there any chance of a 'download manager' being added >>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>> TODO? Cause I'd be wiling to work on that :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/05/07, *Youness Alaoui * < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> I'll start this new thread about the 0.98 TODO. It >>>>>>>> is still >>>>>>>> very small now, and I hope it will get expanded with >>>>>>>> time. The 0.97 TODO is complete, 0.97 RC1 will be >>>>>>>> released >>>>>>>> soon (once we get the new smiley set lordzak/ubitux >>>>>>>> is doing), and we'll make a branch and start working on >> 0.98. >>>>>>>> So here's my current TODO list : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - HIGH PRI : Implement the new preferences window >>>>>>>> - Implement a new chat window widget in snit with >>>>>>>> totally >>>>>>>> modular code and using events. >>>>>>>> - very nice idea : be able to record a message to be >>>>>>>> sent >> as >>>>>>>> voiceclip in the custom status/autoaway message : >>>>>>>> ( >> http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272 >>>>>>>> < >> http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3272>) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >>>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >>>>>>>> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 >>>>>>>> express >> and take >>>>>>>> control of your XML. 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