On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Dan Garry <dga...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Honestly, I disagree with pretty much everything you just said. Even if we
> assume the bias has remained the same, we still don't understand how it
> transforms the underlying data, and without that understanding any
> conclusions you draw will be totally invalid and tell you nothing about the
> gender gap.
>

I agree that drawing any conclusions would be very premature. I just want
to see what the data looks like and if it suggests any trends or sudden
changes that may have happened over the past few years. I think we can all
agree that the gender preference has *some* relation to actual gender. If
the percentage of edits that came from people who identified as female
suddenly increased or decreased at some point in time, wouldn't that be
interesting regardless of our uncertainty that 100% of those people are
actually female? If the percentage of edits that came from people who
identified as female had been decreasing steadily over the past year,
wouldn't that also be interesting regardless? I'm not suggesting we publish
a paper about it. I'm just suggesting we look at the shape of the data and
see if it suggests more specific questions. Right now, though, we have no
information to go on, even to make educated guesses. Part of scientific
investigation is forming a hypothesis, but that's difficult to do when you
don't even have anecdotal evidence. There's nothing wrong with beginning an
investigation with imperfect data. That's how most investigations begin.

Kaldari
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