>So the pageview definition, one of our core organisational KPIs, is owned simultaneously by everyone? Sure, just like mediawiki codebase is collectively own.
Personally I do not see that as a problem and regardless I think it reflects reality, analytics team -as I mentioned before- doesn't have the knowledge or authority to "decide" what constitutes a search pageview without talking to the team/devs/community memebers that actually know how search works. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Oliver Keyes <oke...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > So the pageview definition, one of our core organisational KPIs, is > owned simultaneously by everyone? > > On 3 December 2015 at 12:54, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >>Who does own it? > > On our opinion every team should own the definition of a pageview in > their > > product right and when in doubt analytics or research can be involved to > > provide feedback on lessons learned. > > > > For example: who is best qualified than IOS team to decide what > constitutes > > a page in the IOS app? > > > > With that in mind I have created a ticket to define what constitutes a > > Search pageview: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120249 > > > > Let me know what is a good discovery project to tag this ticket with so > this > > ticket gets some visibility. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nuria > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Oliver Keyes <oke...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >> > >> On 2 December 2015 at 15:38, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> >>It's true that MediaWiki supports search based solely on the ?search > >> >> query > >> >> parameter. Regardless of whether title=Special:Search is specified. > >> >>This is mostly for legacy reasons as search predates the concept of > >> >> special > >> >> pages. > >> >>However, would it make sense to instead count these as page views for > >> >> 'Special:Search'? > >> > > >> > One thing worth clarifying is that analytics team doesn't own the > >> > pageview > >> > definition (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view), we > >> > implement it to the best of our ability. Deciding what constitutes a > >> > pageview for search falls on the search team as they are the ones that > >> > know > >> > their functionality best (substitute "search team" by "some entity > with > >> > knowledge of mediawiki's search abilities") According to Timo's > comment > >> > it > >> > seems that "?search" requests should be counted as true pageviews but > >> > let us > >> > know otherwise via phab ticket or this list. > >> > > >> > >> Who does own it? > >> > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Nuria > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) > >> > <nemow...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Oliver Keyes, 02/12/2015 18:52: > >> >>> > >> >>> Via Brian Davis we find out the responsible patch is > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/commit/05e5da92553dbd3e691eb45d40e559895337935f > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Context: > >> >> > >> >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Page_view/Archive_1#Parameters_appended_to_short_URLs > >> >> > >> >> Nemo > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Analytics mailing list > >> >> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Analytics mailing list > >> > Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Oliver Keyes > >> Count Logula > >> Wikimedia Foundation > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Analytics mailing list > >> Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Analytics mailing list > > Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > > > > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Count Logula > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >
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