Hi Pine,

I thought that was specified in either the Privacy Policy or Terms of Use
> but I can't find the specific reference, and that bothers me.


This is specified in the data retention guidelines:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_retention_guidelines

Cheers!

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 4:11 PM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pine wrote:
> >
> > I tend to think that checkusers will need the plain IP addresses....
>
> I am not suggesting removing the IP addresses or proxy information from
> POST requests as checkuser requires.
>
> We need to anonymize both IP addresses and proxy information with a secure
> hash if we want to keep each GET request's geolocation, to be compliant
> with the Privacy Policy. The Privacy Policy is the most prominent policy on
> the far left on the footer of every page served by every editable project,
> and says explicitly that consent is required for the use of geolocation.
> The Privacy and other policies make it clear that POST requests and Visual
> Editor submissions aren't going to be anonymized.
>
> However, geolocations for POST edit and visual editor submissions still
> require explicit consent which we have no way to obtain at present.
> Editors' geolocations as they edit are very useful for research, but by the
> same token have the most serious privacy concerns. Obtaining consent to
> store geolocation seems like it would interfere with, complicate, and
> disrupt editing. If geolocation is stored with anonymized IP addresses for
> GETs but not POSTs or Visual Editor submissions, both could easily be
> recovered because of simultaneously interleaved GET and POST requests for
> the same article are unavoidable.
>
> Do we have any privacy experts on staff who can give these issues a
> thorough analysis in light of all the issues raised in
> https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1450006 ?
>
> If Ops needs IP addresses, they should be able to use synthetic POST
> requests, as far as I can tell. If they anticipate a need for non-anonymous
> GET requests, then perhaps some kind of a debugging switch which could be
> used on a short term basis where an IP range or mask could be entered to
> allow matching addresses to log non-anonymously before expiring in an hour
> would solve any anticipated need?
>
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