well, they have got definitely a point there. but i can't stop
thinking that plan of that removal had effected ADC results..

anyway, yes that is definetely a bad luck for BabelFish :/

On Oct 30, 7:11 pm, blindfold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All I heard is that GTalkService was (supposedly temporarily) removed
> for security reasons, already with SDK 0.9 beta:
>
> http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/some-information-on-ap...
>
> Of course that is still "bad luck" for your app.
>
> On Oct 30, 5:55 pm, r a f t <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hello,
>
> > we had developed an application (BabelFish) and had entered the ADC 1.
> > we were very hopeful, got very positive responses from friends and
> > forum users.
>
> > in short BabelFish is a translated voice and text IM (Instant
> > Messaging) service. it enables translated conversations among two or
> > more parties. each partner writes messages in his own language and his/
> > her message is instantly translated and delivered other partners in
> > their languages. optionally delivered messages are synthesized into
> > speech and played at destination handsets.
>
> > but unfortunately we got nothing in the contest. we weren't even in
> > the first 50% in neither of the judging criteria. it was really hard
> > to believe...
>
> > it was a contest, we somehow accepted the situation and put BabelFish
> > to shelf for later opportunities. now Android market is open, we
> > decided to put BabelFish there and guess what !? google had removed
> > GTalk (XMPP) service from api, which BabelFish mainly depends on.
> > remember the documentation at early releases, it was stated that XMPP
> > is the preferred way of device to device communication. now it's gone,
> > untill an unknown date, and we are left with WASTED months of work..
> > even if in the future GTalk service is put into api again, we lost the
> > advantage of being one of the first comers in the market..
>
> > looking from this perspective, i had reviewed all finalist and winner
> > applications. it's hard to say from descriptions but seems as none of
> > them are/were using GTalk service.
>
> > now i really WONDER if using GTalk service was a hidden judging
> > criteria. i assume at the time of ADC round 1 google had plans to
> > remove GTalk service from api and cannot afford giving prize to an
> > application which wont work on the actual device ! are there any
> > finalist appllications using GTalk service ?
>
> > if we had any clue, we would develop some other application or maybe
> > wouldn't develop any. it is really wasted months of work. google
> > should mention this earlier..
>
> > more about BabelFish and a short discussion about ADC judgement can be
> > found 
> > at:http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_thread/thread...
>
> > r a f t
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