On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Mark Murphy <mmur...@commonsware.com> wrote: > > Stoyan Damov wrote: >> Does anyone know what's the *FREE* internal memory initially when you >> get the phone? >> I've heard ~70MB, ~96MB, etc. > > ~70MB. > >> Apparently not for me, it appears that I have 9MB! > > Perhaps now. Most likely, you had ~70MB when you got the phone. > >> This is getting ridiculous, I've cleared the browser's cache and got >> 2MB back, I have only *ONE* application installed which takes 2MB > > If you go into Manage Applications and you have only one item listed, > your phone is probably messed up, and I would recommend a reset. The > device comes with dozens of apps installed, some of which (AFAIK) are > not removable.
I guess I had not explained myself very clearly. I do have all pre-installed apps on my phone. Besides them I ONLY have 1 app, which takes 2MB. > >> and I have just 7MB of free memory. > > So, free up some memory. Read below my answers but basically I've done anything possible to free up space and I still have 5 MB. > > For example, on my G1, as I type this, I have 35MB of internal phone > storage available. > > I then go into Settings > Applications > Manage Applications and sort > the results by size descending via the option menu. Me too, and I see this (after sorting by size in descending order): The other app - 2MB My app - 2MB IM - 848 KB ... all others are pre-installed Android apps taking kilobytes > > The top entry is Android Market, at 14MB. There is a known bug in the > Android Market where it does not clear its cache proactively. But, it > will flush the cache when it is needed, so I effectively have closer to > 49MB available. There are enough posts from enough people that I feel > reasonably comfortable that most of that space will be reclaimed if/when > I need it. > > #2 entry is the Browser. I go in, click Clear Data, and the app falls > somewhere way down the list, and my listed available space is 45MB (plus > the 14MB or so that will get freed up by Android Market when needed). > > Lather, rinse, repeat. The browser was taking only 3MB, I said it in my last post. > > If the rough total of space reported by the Manage Applications list, > plus the amount of reported free storage space, does not add up to > anything near ~70MB, then something on your device is leaking storage, > and I would recommend a reset. Now I have a very important question before I do that - I own an unlocked phone (a friend of mine bought it unlocked) and I'm in Bulgaria. The question is whether I'd have to re-activate the phone after the factory reset, because apparently I can't activate it, and do not know for sure whether those "send as $25 and we'll send you an unlock code" websites *actually* work if I get screwed and have to re-activate. > >> This is serious, if I got to this situation there's a possibility that >> other users will hit that too, and these won't be developers. > > Which is why there have been discussions on various approaches for > installing apps on SD cards, to support manufacturers (like, apparently, > HTC) who skimp on the on-board flash. The fact that HTC did this is not > the fault of the core Android team, as Android is licensed as open > source, so HTC can do what it damn well feels like. If you want to > grouse about the ~70MB of free on-device storage space, please grouse in > HTC's general direction. I understand that the device is manufactured, and I am happy to have 70 MB for apps (at least until a next release enables apps to launch from a modified FAT32 SD card or whatever Google comes up with), but the thing is I *don't* have these 70 MBs, I have 1/10 of them :((( > >> I *SO* regret installing the over-the-air patch, which removed root >> access :((((((( > > Which would not have helped you one bit. > Disconnect's post below answers why I'd need root access. I could at least view the file system and decide whether a file should be there or not (acknowledging that I might break the phone by doing that) - but at least I could see that say in /var/tmp there's a huge .log file or whatever and let someone (e.g. Google engineers) about that. Thanks, Stoyan > -- > Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) > http://commonsware.com > _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 2.0 Available! > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
