Is there any difference between a ADP1 and a jail broken G1?

Pat

On Mar 29, 8:31 am, Disconnect <dc.disconn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes you can, and so long as you do not flash the t-mobile SPL you will be
> fine. (For example, do not use any tmobile dreaimg.nbh files you might come
> across.)
>
> Safer and more functional images are available fromhttp://jf.andblogs.net,
> where he sets the security code to 0 (so you have root), secures root (with
> an app called Superuser that does an "are you sure" popup) and greatly
> enhances the shell environment with busybox, backups, etc.  His images are
> available in all of the standard dream 'flavors' so far (us, uk, adp1,
> holiday) and do not break the spl.
>
> 2009/3/28 Rodin <rodin.lyas...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jean-Baptiste,
>
> > I've looked around and I'm still not clear on something.
> > If I order the ADP1, is there a possibility to flash the standard
> > TMobile US image and just the use the phone as a fully-functional,
> > locked G1?
>
> > Thanks,
> >      Rodin
>
> > On Mar 2, 3:16 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> wrote:
> > > That wouldn't work, as you could download with the "locked" firmware,
> > > flash an "unlocked" firmware, and get the files out.
>
> > > JBQ
>
> > > 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>:
>
> > > > What do you think about the idea of two firmware versions for ADP1?
>
> > > > 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com>
>
> > > >> As far as I know by the time you remove from ADP1 the features that
> > > >> would allow access to forward-locked apps (flashable, root, debuggable
> > > >> system), you have essentially a consumer device.
>
> > > >> JBQ
>
> > > >> 2009/3/2 vendor.net <vendor....@gmail.com>:
>
> > > >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack
> > of
> > > >> >> communication on the topic.  I have to scour the web just to find a
> > > >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with thedevphone.  There is no
> > > >> >> official word or anything.  Google should at least have a posting
> > on
> > > >> >> the Developer's blog.  Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for
> > those
> > > >> >> of us who paid the $25?
> > > >> > Totally agree!
>
> > > >> > Hint for some desperate developers who wants to trade ADP1 for G1.
> > You
> > > >> > can put the G1 firmware. Your phone will be full locked except for
> > the
> > > >> > sim card I think, but you will have G1 firmware. Just have to flash
> > > >> > it, but still I didn`t think that this is the solution...
>
> > > >> > I see one possible solution for dealing with the situation: To have
> > 2
> > > >> > versions for developers. The first version will be totally unlocked,
> > > >> > but it will not support the full market. The second version will
> > lock
> > > >> > only these dirs which contains the paid apps. The second version of
> > > >> > the firmware will lock only the dirs and the processes which control
> > > >> > the copy/protection of the apps. There could be flaws, but I will be
> > > >> > happy to read your comments about it. It is a possible solution?
> > JQB?
>
> > > >> > On1Март, 08:08, Sen <senecajust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> Well, you all have certainly taken this discussion in an
> > interesting
> > > >> >> direction.
>
> > > >> >> I would just like to add to my original posting.  Hopefully we
> > still
> > > >> >> have some official Google person's attention.
>
> > > >> >> I'm pretty understanding when it comes to deadlines not being met
> > when
> > > >> >> it comes to stuff like this.  We're all developers here and I'm
> > sure
> > > >> >> we've all experienced this.  I would agree though that I think the
> > > >> >> people that went out of their way and paid the extra money for a
> > > >> >> "developer edition" phone, should be the first to get the updates.
>
> > > >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack
> > of
> > > >> >> communication on the topic.  I have to scour the web just to find a
> > > >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with thedevphone.  There is no
> > > >> >> official word or anything.  Google should at least have a posting
> > on
> > > >> >> the Developer's blog.  Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for
> > those
> > > >> >> of us who paid the $25?
>
> > > >> >> Why do I have to ask this question?... we really should be better
> > > >> >> informed.
>
> > > >> >> Thanks
>
> > > >> >> On Feb 28,1:16 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> > On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> >> > > method), and, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a method
> > circulating
> > > >> >> > > which can be applied to any and every protected application to
> > get
> > > >> >> > > a
> > > >> >> > > protection free copy by following a simple set of instructions
> > (if
> > > >> >> > > there
> > > >> >> > > is I'd  welcome information on it so we can work on fixing the
> > flaw
> > > >> >> > > it
> > > >> >> > > uses).
>
> > > >> >> > I'm not aware of one either, but I expect that a tool would
> > emerge
> > > >> >> > very quickly if the AndAppStore takes off when it starts being
> > > >> >> > distributed with handsets and such. You could then tweak the
> > system
> > > >> >> > to
> > > >> >> > stop the tool from working, but then the attacker would release a
> > new
> > > >> >> > version, and you'd be in an arms race.
>
> > > >> >> > The reason why I say they're equivalent is that while the steps
> > along
> > > >> >> > the way may be different, the end result is the same: people who
> > > >> >> > don't
> > > >> >> > want to pay will get the apps for free. In my opinion adding
> > extra
> > > >> >> > hurdles just wastes the developers' time and provides a juicier
> > > >> >> > intellectual challenge for those who are inclined to try to
> > defeat
> > > >> >> > the
> > > >> >> > system.
>
> > > >> >> > --
> > > >> >> > Jon
>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> > > >> Android Engineer, Google.
>
> > > >> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to
> > > >> a public forum with no further warning.
>
> > > --
> > > Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> > > Android Engineer, Google.
>
> > > Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to
> > > a public forum with no further warning.- Hide quoted text -
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