The firmware is different. ADP 1.1 is made by google and jail broken G1 probably runs on JF firmware which is a 3rd party developer.
2009/3/30 patg <pat.gioann...@gmail.com> > > Is there any difference between a ADP1 and a jail broken G1? > > Pat > > On Mar 29, 8:31 am, Disconnect <dc.disconn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes you can, and so long as you do not flash the t-mobile SPL you will be > > fine. (For example, do not use any tmobile dreaimg.nbh files you might > come > > across.) > > > > Safer and more functional images are available fromhttp:// > jf.andblogs.net, > > where he sets the security code to 0 (so you have root), secures root > (with > > an app called Superuser that does an "are you sure" popup) and greatly > > enhances the shell environment with busybox, backups, etc. His images > are > > available in all of the standard dream 'flavors' so far (us, uk, adp1, > > holiday) and do not break the spl. > > > > 2009/3/28 Rodin <rodin.lyas...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Baptiste, > > > > > I've looked around and I'm still not clear on something. > > > If I order the ADP1, is there a possibility to flash the standard > > > TMobile US image and just the use the phone as a fully-functional, > > > locked G1? > > > > > Thanks, > > > Rodin > > > > > On Mar 2, 3:16 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> wrote: > > > > That wouldn't work, as you could download with the "locked" firmware, > > > > flash an "unlocked" firmware, and get the files out. > > > > > > JBQ > > > > > > 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > What do you think about the idea of two firmware versions for ADP1? > > > > > > > 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> > > > > > > >> As far as I know by the time you remove from ADP1 the features > that > > > > >> would allow access to forward-locked apps (flashable, root, > debuggable > > > > >> system), you have essentially a consumer device. > > > > > > >> JBQ > > > > > > >> 2009/3/2 vendor.net <vendor....@gmail.com>: > > > > > > >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's > lack > > > of > > > > >> >> communication on the topic. I have to scour the web just to > find a > > > > >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with thedevphone. There > is no > > > > >> >> official word or anything. Google should at least have a > posting > > > on > > > > >> >> the Developer's blog. Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for > > > those > > > > >> >> of us who paid the $25? > > > > >> > Totally agree! > > > > > > >> > Hint for some desperate developers who wants to trade ADP1 for > G1. > > > You > > > > >> > can put the G1 firmware. Your phone will be full locked except > for > > > the > > > > >> > sim card I think, but you will have G1 firmware. Just have to > flash > > > > >> > it, but still I didn`t think that this is the solution... > > > > > > >> > I see one possible solution for dealing with the situation: To > have > > > 2 > > > > >> > versions for developers. The first version will be totally > unlocked, > > > > >> > but it will not support the full market. The second version will > > > lock > > > > >> > only these dirs which contains the paid apps. The second version > of > > > > >> > the firmware will lock only the dirs and the processes which > control > > > > >> > the copy/protection of the apps. There could be flaws, but I > will be > > > > >> > happy to read your comments about it. It is a possible solution? > > > JQB? > > > > > > >> > On1Март, 08:08, Sen <senecajust...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> >> Well, you all have certainly taken this discussion in an > > > interesting > > > > >> >> direction. > > > > > > >> >> I would just like to add to my original posting. Hopefully we > > > still > > > > >> >> have some official Google person's attention. > > > > > > >> >> I'm pretty understanding when it comes to deadlines not being > met > > > when > > > > >> >> it comes to stuff like this. We're all developers here and I'm > > > sure > > > > >> >> we've all experienced this. I would agree though that I think > the > > > > >> >> people that went out of their way and paid the extra money for > a > > > > >> >> "developer edition" phone, should be the first to get the > updates. > > > > > > >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's > lack > > > of > > > > >> >> communication on the topic. I have to scour the web just to > find a > > > > >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with thedevphone. There > is no > > > > >> >> official word or anything. Google should at least have a > posting > > > on > > > > >> >> the Developer's blog. Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for > > > those > > > > >> >> of us who paid the $25? > > > > > > >> >> Why do I have to ask this question?... we really should be > better > > > > >> >> informed. > > > > > > >> >> Thanks > > > > > > >> >> On Feb 28,1:16 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> > > method), and, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a method > > > circulating > > > > >> >> > > which can be applied to any and every protected application > to > > > get > > > > >> >> > > a > > > > >> >> > > protection free copy by following a simple set of > instructions > > > (if > > > > >> >> > > there > > > > >> >> > > is I'd welcome information on it so we can work on fixing > the > > > flaw > > > > >> >> > > it > > > > >> >> > > uses). > > > > > > >> >> > I'm not aware of one either, but I expect that a tool would > > > emerge > > > > >> >> > very quickly if the AndAppStore takes off when it starts > being > > > > >> >> > distributed with handsets and such. You could then tweak the > > > system > > > > >> >> > to > > > > >> >> > stop the tool from working, but then the attacker would > release a > > > new > > > > >> >> > version, and you'd be in an arms race. > > > > > > >> >> > The reason why I say they're equivalent is that while the > steps > > > along > > > > >> >> > the way may be different, the end result is the same: people > who > > > > >> >> > don't > > > > >> >> > want to pay will get the apps for free. In my opinion adding > > > extra > > > > >> >> > hurdles just wastes the developers' time and provides a > juicier > > > > >> >> > intellectual challenge for those who are inclined to try to > > > defeat > > > > >> >> > the > > > > >> >> > system. > > > > > > >> >> > -- > > > > >> >> > Jon > > > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > > > > >> Android Engineer, Google. > > > > > > >> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded > to > > > > >> a public forum with no further warning. > > > > > > -- > > > > Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > > > > Android Engineer, Google. > > > > > > Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to > > > > a public forum with no further warning.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
