I'll say again: we are not going to remove AbsoluteLayout from a future
release, but we strongly discourage people from using it.

If you choose to not believe me, you are welcome to, but I am not
responsible for you making that decision.

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Mike <michaeldouglaskra...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Dianne, with all due respect, I'm with Mark on this one.
>
> The only reasonable thing for a developer to do at this point is
> abandon the deprecated classes as quickly as possible.  Google's track
> record with Android releases proves that they can and will spin on a
> dime without giving much notice as to where Android is headed.  I'm a
> little surprised at the lack of empathy shown developers when it comes
> to release time windows.
>
> By the way, it's the developers of Android apps and games that makes
> the Android platform a viable one, is it not?
>
> Regards,
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
> On May 4, 1:36 pm, Mark Murphy <mmur...@commonsware.com> wrote:
> > Dianne Hackborn wrote:
> > > DidAbsoluteLayoutdisappear from 1.5?  No.  Are you unable to write 1.5
> > > apps using it?  No.  Have we ever said we have any plan to completely
> > > remove it at any point in the future?  No.
> >
> > AbsoluteLayoutis flagged as deprecated in Android 1.5. As far as we out
> > here are concerned, that means we gotta abandon the class or clone and
> > maintain our own copy, and do either of those very very quickly.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Because there's no visibility into Android releases.
> >
> > We received a 1.5 preview edition ~3 weeks before devices started
> > shipping incorporating 1.5. That's not enough time to do a proper
> > rewrite, so we can't wait untilAbsoluteLayouttotally vanishes...which
> > it could do at any time. For all we know, Android 1.6 will be released
> > next week (after all, I'm traveling again), andAbsoluteLayoutwill be
> > purged from the OS.
> >
> > Now, if Android operated under Symbian-esque or Ubuntu-ish release
> > schedules, we would at least know the earliest possible
> timeAbsoluteLayoutmight vanish. And if the community were somehow involved
> > in the actual discussions on decisions like this, we might even be able
> > to find out if any given release removesAbsoluteLayoutbefore the
> > release flies over the wall.
> >
> > Give us transparency, and we in the community can better help ease
> > concerns over deprecation. Without transparency, please do not complain
> > when the community feels it has to rush around to deal with deprecation.
> >
> > --
> > Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com|
> http://twitter.com/commonsguy
> >
> > Android App Developer Training:http://commonsware.com/training.html
>
> >
>


-- 
Dianne Hackborn
Android framework engineer
hack...@android.com

Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
answer them.

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