Sounds very shady... Somewhat reminiscent of the whole pirated apps thing on the Archos forum.
On Oct 22, 1:17 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > By hotlinking Tim means using a download URL from another application > directory in their own listings, so when a user uses the AppsLib > client and goes to download an app the download may actually come from > another sites servers. > > AppsLib have some apps hotlinked to AndAppStore (without agreement), > and the way they've done it refers to specific versions of > applications which means there is no guarantee that the download will > be available to users when they click on them (because a developer may > have removed that version from public use at AndAppStore), and even if > the developer updates the app at AndAppStore any users using AppsLib > won't see the updates because of the way Diotasoft/Archos have done > things. > > They also link out to SlideME without any agreement, and to GetJar. If > you want to see it for yourself you can download their releases file > fromhttp://files.appslib.com/db/Releases.dat, open it up in a file > editor, and search for andappstore , slideme, or getjar. > > Al. > > On Oct 22, 9:07 pm, strazzere <str...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In addition to what Al has said, it's been interesting to see that > > many, MANY applications as essentially hotlinked to other sites for > > downloading. Very few of the applications posted appear to be actually > > hosted on appslib servers. > > > This to me is a concern for a few reasons. Has permission been grated > > for this to happen? How does this protect me against bad updates/or > > even get me updates? Is that why I can't access have the applications, > > and did that author even submit it comes into question... > > > -Tim > > > On Oct 22, 3:03 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > > > Here is our account of what happened between us at AndAppStore and > > > Archos; > > > > We worked with Archos for several weeks helping them design and > > > develop AppsLib, this included me personally travelling to Archoses > > > head office in Paris for meetings with Henri Crohas (Founder and CEO > > > of Archos), and other members of their senior management, as well as > > > various email and information exchanges. The relationship was such > > > that at one point I personally was in possession of a pre-release > > > Android Archos 5 for a few weeks before it was officially launched. > > > > Very early on in the development a mutual NDA was signed after which > > > AndAppStore, at Archoses request, supplied proprietary information > > > about AndAppStores' client/server data exchange mechanisms, system > > > architecture, and provided a version of the AndAppStore client with a > > > customised user interface designed to work on the WVGA display of the > > > Archos 5. All of the information supplied to them was given in order > > > to allow them to develop their server to ensure it was compatible with > > > the customised AndAppStore client which we were told would be used as > > > the AppsLib client. > > > > During our work with them we agreed the terms of an ongoing > > > relationship which would cover the cost of the consulting and > > > development work, and although the original deal was modified a few > > > times (by mutual agreement), a contract was drawn up by Archos which > > > we signed and returned it to them for countersigning. Archos then > > > refused to countersign their own contract, and thus the relationship > > > ended. > > > > When AppsLib was released it came to light that Archos had asked a > > > third party, Diotasoft, to develop an almost functionally identical > > > client for them and that AppsLib used the same system architecture and > > > data exchange methods as AndAppStore, the details of which had been > > > supplied to Archos under the mutual NDA at a time when we were being > > > told we would be compensated via the terms of the ongoing relationship > > > which had since ended. > > > > The extent of the use was that the Diotasoft/Archos AppsLib used > > > exactly file formats, data set names, relationships between data sets, > > > and methods of accessing the data as used in AndAppStore, and the > > > AndAppStore client could read, parse, and populate its' internal > > > database with data from AppsLib without modification. > > > > The current situation is this; As of today we have received no payment > > > of any kind for the work we did, and the only invoice we have > > > submitted is now overdue and has not been paid, and so we are seeking > > > legal advice as to what options are open to us in relation to the > > > information must have redistributed to Diotasoft in order to allow > > > them to develop a client to our specifications and their development > > > of an almost identical client. With all this in mind we are also > > > examining the financial stability of Archos to determine whether or > > > not Archos would be able to pay any award made to us by the time any > > > legal action would be completed. > > > > Hopefully you're all now able to make your decisions a little easier > > > as opposed to having to guess whats' going on. > > > > Al. > > > -- > > > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > > > > ====== > > > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > > > company number 6741909. > > > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > > > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > > > subsidiaries. > > > > On Oct 22, 5:57 pm, Streets Of Boston <flyingdutc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > There could be plenty of reason's 'why'. Costs less, faster to market, > > > > etc. > > > > I hope, too, that all this is just a mis-understanding. But > > > > AndAppStore states that it has some good proof that parts of their > > > > software have been 'used' by Archos for the Archos Market. > > > > > On Oct 22, 4:52 am, arnouf <arnaud.far...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I'm not an Archos employee ! > > > > > I think that this story is a little bit strange, because I don't think > > > > > that Archos did something like that if they want have a good place on > > > > > the android place... > > > > > > Now, I can't confirm if Archos or AndAppStore are right but I don't > > > > > think why Archos should stole codes... > > > > > > On 21 oct, 16:11, Streets Of Boston <flyingdutc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Same here. > > > > > > If they indeed did that, then i won't put my app there. > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 1:25 pm, niko20 <nikolatesl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Maybe I will wait until I find out if you really stole the code > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > your app store from the andAppStore developers. At least that is > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > current allegation. > > > > > > > > -niko > > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 3:55 am, arnouf <arnaud.far...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If you have developed or if you are developing applications, > > > > > > > > and they > > > > > > > > are on the Android Market - Great! - But these apps are only > > > > > > > > available for devices that have contracts with Google. > > > > > > > > > Archos, a major PMP manufacturer, launched its first device on > > > > > > > > 25th of > > > > > > > > September: the Archos 5 IT. Archos has a real community of fans > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > are waiting for applications for their devices. This device is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > first of a long product line (the first Archos phone should be > > > > > > > > available soon too!). > > > > > > > > > It's a new opportunity for your applications to find new fans! > > > > > > > > > You can post your apps, for free, on the Archos Market called > > > > > > > > Appslib > > > > > > > > (http://www.appslib.com). > > > > > > > > > Today, only free applications are available for distribution on > > > > > > > > AppsLib, but Archos promises the possibility to distribute your > > > > > > > > paid > > > > > > > > apps soon ! > > > > > > > > > Don't wait : more applications, more users, more fans...and more > > > > > > > > revenue (soon)! > > > > > > > > > Arnaud- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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