While the OP simply likely has just not selected the relevant automatic network selection option in Settings, I have had a somewhat related issue when roaming with a UK G1 in the Republic of Ireland, or more specifically when *returning* from the ROI.
I sometimes stay at a location in the UK where there is very poor (non-existant) T-Mobile reception. In the UK, there is *NO* roaming agreement set up between the domestic networks (i.e. when in the UK, a T-Mobile phone will never roam on to Vodafone, apart from for emergency calls). Except mine did. Specifically only *after* I'd returned to the ROI. If I put the network selection on automatic, it sometimes roams on to Vodafone or O2 or Orange even while in the UK. (I have photographic proof of this.) If I make a call (e.g. to 150, the T-Mobile customer support number), the call is just rejected. If I put the network selection manually on to T-Mobile, everything works fine (when in range of a T-Mobile mast, "no service" otherwise, as expected). I rang T-Mobile CS and they apparently "refreshed" my account and apparently sent some "network" SMS messages to the phone to reset some settings, however this did not help and the problem persists. A subsequent call to T-Mobile didn't yield anything useful. It's not a major problem to me because 95% of the time I'm in a major city (Manchester) with perfect T-Mobile reception everywhere. The problem is when it's stuck on Vodafone or O2 and I drive back to a T-Mobile area, the phone "sticks" on the wrong network and I have to manually choose T-Mobile again then select Automatic again for it to register back on to T-Mobile, during which time my phone is offline (incoming calls redirected to voicemail, incoming SMS queues up at the network), which is inconvenient. I wonder if this is at all related. Kind regards Tom Fanning On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Sam Hiatt <[email protected]> wrote: > > FWIW, I had problems with the same issue when traveling to NC. T- > mobile has service there as they recently acquired SunCom. However, > the signal was still showing up as SunCom in some places, and so I had > to manually select it in order for my phone to work. Then, when > returning to California, I had to manually select T-Mobile again. > > Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find an option for manual/auto roaming. > There's only the option for using data services while roaming... > > Anyway, "broadcasting this far and wide" probably isn't the best > solution. It is a software issue that should be reported (cordially) > to Android devs. > > As far as getting T-mobile to push out updates and bug fixes... well, > maybe some mass complaining might help. I don't think they know how > to work with an open source project yet. Their lack of transparency > is currently pissing me off... but I suppose that is a discussion for > another thread. > > Sam > > > On Jan 20, 9:50 pm, "Michael Martin - MM Agency" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Is this really the case if you have SELECT AUTOMATICALLY within SETTINGS > for > > AVAILABLE NETWORKS? > > > > I haven't had or even heard of this issue? > > > > It's unfathomable to force chronic manual selection of the network as you > > travel. > > > > , Michael Martin > > > > http://www.googleandblog.com/ > > > > _____ > > > > From: Muthu Ramadoss [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:32 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Serious design oversight! > > > > This can't be true. IF this is true, then G1 we got a problem! > > > > take care, > > Muthu Ramadoss. > > > > http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914http://androidrocks.in-Android > > Consulting. > > > > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:30 AM, calif1961 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen at Android Dev., > > I purchased a G1 from T-mobile the day after release.I like the > > unit. However, it has come to my attention that this is not a cell > > phone. I am not sure how to categorize it. Every "cell phone' I have > > owned in the last 10 years has an automatic roaming feature enabling > > the user to receive calls coast to coast with little interruption. > > Regardless of carrier, reciprocal agreements exist allowing a T-mobile > > or At&T , Verizon etc.. customer to roam on other carriers networks > > thereby creating a virtually seamless mobile communication > > experience. I have gone into detail in my explanation for the purpose > > of illustrating that not once in ten years, with different carriers , > > different cell phone makers and the like, has anyone ever told me to > > go to my phone settings and manually select a different carrier > > each time my phone is out of range of a T-mobile cell tower, which > > happens frequently in metro areas as well as when traveling cross- > > country. This is entirely unacceptable for a cell phone , it may be > > acceptable for a laptop whilst > > sipping a Latte' at the local coffee house , but cannot be workable > > with a cell phone. BlackBerry phones roam, My wife has one. Not once > > in our recent visit to Louisiana did my wife notice her phone was > > without service. My G1 however, was without service for several hours > > apparently. I missed numerous calls, and would not have noticed > > but for my wife who was receiving calls from people who could not > > reach me. No missed calls log, no voicemail notification....no email > > for several hours because I " neglected" to check my phone every few > > minutes to see if I needed to manually try and connect to another > > network because I was out of range of T-Mobile. I challenge any of you > > to try and use this phone as a primary cell phone while traveling. It > > is not possible. I have complained to T-Mobile and their official > > version is that the "phone" is intended to work this way. Can you > > imagine what will happen when all the fools like me figure out why > > they are missing their calls? I intend to broadcast this far and wide. > > This is absolutely irresponsible to represent this as a cell phone. It > > is not. It cannot be used by grown ups who intend to actually be > > reached when traveling even a short distance from home. My wife's > > phone grabs AT&T often inside the city limits of Houston Texas in > > areas poorly served by T-Mobile. By the way, The official word > > from G1 support is that this was intended to work this way and that > > since it was a "Google" software dev. team > > in charge, we shouldn't expect you guys to understand how cell phones > > work. I was actually told this by a T-Mobile Supervisor. I was also > > informed that there will be no patch or fix in the near future. > > Believe me if this is the case , I will be sure to make lots and lots > > of noise about this. Fix it or get ready to lose lots of people to > > unlocked I-phones. I cannot believe you guys didn't do your homework. > > This is only one of many many many flaws in the design of this thing. > > I understand some bugs. New software, new platform...I get it. You > > guys missed the basics, that's just poor quality testing and design. > > Come on , a cell phone that can't auto select another network when out > > of range......pleeeeaasse! > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
