No, most are NOT. People, for @#$%'s sake, you've GOT to trust me on that. I've downloaded an e-book the other day. I read it (it's a short story), and the next day I got an update. I installed it curious to see what was updated (was the reader itself). I ran it. It crashed IMMEDIATELY after launch before showing any UI. I then uninstalled it, and re-installed it, and it started and worked flawlessly.
I'm betting my ass that when Android updates an application it @#$%s up something, e.g. permissions (damn me for NOT launching Eclipse when this happened to see what exactly was the crash) and the app would F/C. After a reinstall, everything works just fine. What I described is what can be seen on MANY (and list is growing) number of applications' descriptions on Android Market (that is "please, uninstall before update"). I *do* believe people make bugs (and so do I), and that there are some very poorly developed apps on Market, but this *particular* crash immediately after an update is a Google bug. I know it. I KNOW it. I @#$%ING KNOW IT! I'm just waiting for it to happen again with another app, and me having Eclipse around. Cheers On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Mattaku Betsujin <[email protected]> wrote: > I think a lot of the comments are junk. However, I think the Force Close > ones are real. On Android, the foreground app shouldn't be FC'ed if there > are lots of background activities. > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We really need something like 'Report abuse" or "Inaccurate" >> I try a lot of applications that run perfectly but I bet some people with >> a lot of background applications running will obviously have problems with >> the Force Close thing, they usually just go to the market and give 1star for >> that. >> I would love to report that as inaccurate, because that is just not spam. >> Ivan Soto Fernandez >> Web Developer >> http://ivansotof.com >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Eric Mill <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I've written on this list a couple times about the deplorable state of >>> Android Market comment threads. It has gotten better than it used to >>> be, though, I think the "Report as Spam" option has made an impact. >>> >>> You're not going to get people to change the way they express >>> themselves about how they feel about your app, though. YouTube has >>> played with their comment system numerous times, but the comment >>> threads are still a gutter. It's just the audience and the culture. >>> Blocking out basic curse words just goads people to get around the >>> filter. >>> >>> Like I said though, I think it's improved, I'm not seeing the same >>> level of vindictiveness and bile that was there in the winter. It's >>> just going to take some more time, and it's going to have to come from >>> the community. >>> >>> -- Eric >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > And yet no word from Google. Although, I can say that I've seen some >>> > kind of >>> > moderation. (I guess) >>> > I haven't seen a lot of comments like >>> > "your app rocks. 5 starss... contact me [email protected]" >>> > Which was a big issue before. Still, it needs a lot of improvement. >>> > >>> > >>> > Ivan Soto Fernandez >>> > Web Developer >>> > http://ivansotof.com >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Sean Hodges >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> From my experience, auto filters have limited effectiveness, though >>> >> definitely better than nothing at all. >>> >> >>> >> Ideally, there would be a "Report Abuse" button that acts similar to >>> >> the spam feature, and in both cases if a Google account is reported a >>> >> number of times it is reviewed by market support for inappropriate >>> >> activity (I'm not sure if this is already the case for the spam >>> >> feature). >>> >> >>> >> If a malicious user starts picking on another by reporting all their >>> >> comments, the data from this can be used to review the reporter's >>> >> account instead... People abusing the system should get a warning >>> >> followed by a ban on the market, or some similar course of action. >>> >> >>> >> Of course, if this is too much to implement, an auto-filter should >>> >> definitely be considered as an alternative. There are lots of reports >>> >> requesting this in the market forum. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM, [email protected] >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > Completely agree. I'm amazed there isn't an auto-filter going on - >>> >> > it >>> >> > would be easy to catch obvious swear words like the ones you quote >>> >> > above. >>> >> > >>> >> > When I've seen abusive comments, the poster usually tries to >>> >> > disguise >>> >> > the swear words by changing a letter or by using asterisks instead, >>> >> > because of fear of being moderated I guess. >>> >> > >>> >> > But it looks like the moderating is not happening at all. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, mask <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> This is an excerpt from an application comment: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "This stupid fucking shit isn't downloading/installing! What a >>> >> >> waste >>> >> >> sherelle 2009-04-08 04:00:44" >>> >> >> >>> >> >> As a developer, I would like to know when is Google going to start >>> >> >> moderating such illiterate and ignorant people from commenting on >>> >> >> an >>> >> >> issue developer has no control. At least, the curse words should be >>> >> >> removed or 'moderated' for keeping the developer community sane. >>> >> >> Keep >>> >> >> in mind, in the long run its the developers and their application >>> >> >> that >>> >> >> will eventually sell and market android platform. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> As a developer, all ignorant and abusive comments are least >>> >> >> productive. Also Google's inaction in removing abusive comments are >>> >> >> totally unacceptable. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> As a developer, I request Google to take immediate action by >>> >> >> removing >>> >> >> comments which are abusive or totally remove commenting but keep >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> star rating until Google provides a complete solution. >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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