I don't see the relevance of talking about your "150 apps". Whether the firmware includes google apps or not has no relation to backing up your installed apps.
As for installing custom firmware that came without google apps, you don't need to use any backup apps. You can inject the missing files into the update.zip file yourself and resign it before installing it as usual. That makes the actual install process *identical* to what you are already familiar with. Just one more TRIVIAL step to perform. And this is perfectly legal as long as you are licensed to use those file (i.e. you have a "google experience" device) and don't distribute that update file. An alternative for you is that you create YOUR OWN update.zip containing only the files that you would want to inject. Then, when you are in recovery mode, you can just write two files instead of one -- first the mod firmware, then the google-app injection. And no, an update.zip does NOT have to wipe the filesystem, it *can* be used to simply add files. Now as for backing up your installed apps; Take a nandroid backup -- the "data.img" file has all your installed files and user files except for those installed on the sdcard. A "dd" of your sdcard and you have a backup of those as well. On Sep 29, 2:19 pm, Ed <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree that this is the way you would have to do it. I am > disappointed because I have over 150 apps on my cyanogen-modded phone, > including 50 paid apps. (Try that on your stock G1 ;) ) > > I have tried the various backup apps, and I have not been pleased with > the results. Some apps can be restored just fine, while others never > quite come back (need uninstall/reinstalls). This method as described > would be a nightmare for me. > > [Tangential rant] I believe that people like me are a great boon to > the developer community. Having 50 apps that I paid for running on my > phone is a good thing, right? In fact, the main reason I rooted my > phone was because I ran out of space and had to uninstall apps that I > had paid for. Then, I found that the modded roms were actually faster > and more stable than stock...[/Tangential rant] > > --Ed > > On Sep 29, 9:06 am, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It is not as bad as you think... > > > You see, you are still entitled to whatever updates are supposed to > > come with your phone. > > > Which means that there are at least a couple of solutions to your > > concern; > > 1) restore factory image and take the update, back up the updated > > apps, reinstall the modified firmware, restore the new backup. > > 2) capture the update that is targeted to your device and apply only > > the parts of it that you want to. This can even be automated! > > > ** the update comes down as clear as day. It is a zip file, no > > password, no encryption, no file that says you can't rip it apart. > > > On Sep 29, 9:48 am, Mouseclone <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have recently read the bacup/restore of the Google applications. > > > > I also see that I will not be able to get updates to these > > > applications. Any updates that Google makes will be placed in a > > > locked down OS. > > > > T-Mobile should provide the apps if you have a Google phone. I'm sure > > > they they would look at it as a none supported device and wouldn't > > > redistribute the software to people either. > > > > It is upsetting that I have paid for the Software and I will be unable > > > to use it and because I paid for it, I should, in the least, be > > > supplied with a way to download the software off of my T-Mobile > > > account, and add it to my phone. Other carriers should do the same, > > > not just T-Mobile. > > > > I'm going to digress now, and just watch what happens. If all else > > > fails I can live with out Google on the phone. > > > > On Sep 28, 4:52 pm, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > They can't do that because the phone is independent of the carrier, > > > > i.e., the HTC DREAM can be used on MANY different carrier networks, > > > > and depending on the retailer, may or may not be licensed to carry the > > > > google devices, therefore it can't be a hardware-availability either. > > > > > You are also misinformed about the legality... you have a google > > > > experience device, which means that you ARE licensed to use those apps > > > > on your device. The big issue isn't in YOUR use of those apps on YOUR > > > > phone, but rather the mechanism of DISTRIBUTION of those apps, i.e. > > > > Cyanogen had no license to distribute those apps with his mod > > > > firmware. > > > > > Your solution to this problem is to use the upcoming no-google-closed- > > > > source custom builds and to use YOUR LEGAL BACKUP of the google-closed- > > > > source apps. They're closed source, so not modified between custom > > > > builds anyways. > > > > > On Sep 28, 1:37 pm, Mouseclone <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I did a small write up on my tech blog (19incheswide.com) about > > > > > Cyanogen and Google. I understand that Google has a point, still > > > > > doesn't mean that I'm not pissed at Google about it. I just am. > > > > > > As for an idea that might put some of this to rest. > > > > > > Google, is there a possibility that you can build an App Pack for > > > > > carriers or phones that are "Google Phones". I bought my phone from a > > > > > T-Mobile store. Personally I feel that I should have the right to > > > > > continue to run the apps because I have bought a license to run the > > > > > apps on this phone. I personally didn't think that I violated any > > > > > rules by running a modified version for Android. > > > > > > The reason for the App Pack is because of the deal(s) that YOU > > > > > (Google) and T-Mobile seem to have made at some point in time. At > > > > > YouTube is not in the market place I can only assume that the YouTube > > > > > app was part of the T-Mobile deal. > > > > > > Google, you should be able to make App Packs based on the type of > > > > > phone and the carrier that I have. Google Maps seems to be free as it > > > > > is in the Market Place. Then again, I soon will not be able to get to > > > > > the Market Place because there is no way for me to install it. > > > > > > I'm also going to miss the integration of Google in my phone, with my > > > > > contacts, calendar, maps, and gmail. I was in the process of moving > > > > > things to Google from other accounts, but it seems I will have to wait > > > > > until things are sorted out with CyanogenMod to be able to continue my > > > > > working with Google. > > > > > > I bought the phone not because of YOU (Google) but because it was > > > > > OSS. I will continue to use Android and Android Mods like Cyanogen, > > > > > with or without Google integration. > > > > > > So You and T-Mobile get together and make an AppPack that the rest of > > > > > us can use that own a G1 / MyTouch and bought them from T-Mobile. > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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