Just because you don't read it doesn't mean it isn't binding. And yes, I always read it. And understand it. Why a year? How do you know it was a year? Maybe they C&D's Jesusfreke as well. Ever wonder WHY he quit? Maybe others haven't been around long enough to bother with. It TAKES TIME for the legal machinery to crank. Maybe it was all OK until the new and at-the-time-unreleased market app (it has now been released since 1.6 is now officially out on real devices - ADP1) got into it.
On Sep 29, 10:20 am, Rob <[email protected]> wrote: > Why did the take a yr to do this? > Why not come off the bat and mention it? > A lot of fine print is meant to drag and confuse people. > DId you read the whole fine print in your credit card, cable tv, > android phone, pc/mac OS? > > On Sep 29, 9:35 am, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That is only the case if you *DON'T READ*. > > > Android is android -- see OHA, AOSP. > > "With Google" means "With Google" -- see Google. > > > When you sync with AOSP repo, the closed source "with google" stuff is > > NOT THERE. > > > The licenses are ALL included IN YOUR PHONE. Settings/About/Licenses. > > Read them. Didn't know they were there? Your own fault for not > > looking! > > > On Sep 28, 6:40 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It's not really that. Is that they provide android and the "with > > > Google" experience yet they do not differentiate between both. Then a > > > year later they provide the most recognized developer with a C&D > > > letter. > > > And who is to say this will stop? > > > > On Sep 28, 5:12 pm, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This is nothing more than a minor change in procedure. The end results > > > > are no difference EXCEPT that the lawyers will be happy. > > > > > Read. > > > > Think. > > > > > The only reason people are "pissed off" is that they are too dumb to > > > > read and understand what is going on. > > > > > On Sep 26, 3:17 am, W <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Well said. This is firing a bullet right into your own toes. No one > > > > > is disputing Google's legal right to do this. It's about how > > > > > fundamentally stupid it is to piss off your most ardent and > > > > > technically savvy supporters. Unless Google reverses course here, the > > > > > next few plays are pretty straightforward-- (1) cyanogen and other > > > > > developers move to another platform (sucking air, advocacy, and > > > > > momentum from Android's adoption) or (2) a serious effort gets > > > > > underway to replace the proprietary .apks/apis with true open-source > > > > > replacements-- a map app that uses openstreetmap (with turn-by-turn), > > > > > a better IMAP client for gmail, an alternative market app like > > > > > andappstore, etc. Eventually the IP-unencumbered alternatives will be > > > > > as good or better than Google's offerings, and what will Google have > > > > > gained? This is how it's worked with open-source since the beginning > > > > > of time. > > > > > > It is strategically unwise for Google to publicly advocate FOSS > > > > > development, build an entire platform on FOSS codebase, promote FOSS > > > > > philosophy to win market share and mindshare, then take a massive dump > > > > > all over their burgeoning development community and fan base. (and if > > > > > you don't think that's what's happened, read the comments on xda- > > > > > developers, android blogs, or most of the Google apps in the Market) > > > > > > W > > > > > > On Sep 24, 8:08 pm, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > This is one of the stupidest moves I've seen a company do in a > > > > > > while. > > > > > > First, wait til an organic community developer group forms around > > > > > > your > > > > > > product, wait til they release improved version of your free OS, > > > > > > let them > > > > > > hype it to death for you... then C&D them out of existence until > > > > > > they all go > > > > > > tinker with Maemo or Linmo (or iPhone or Web OS) devices. > > > > > > > It doesn't matter if Google, Inc are legally correct, this is a > > > > > > boneheaded > > > > > > business decision. > > > > > > > -Josh > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM, schwiz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > So everytime I have seen someone ask about apps2sd for android, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > response has been something along the lines of 'well if you don't > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > the space on the phone modify it yourself if its that easy' > > > > > > > Someone > > > > > > > takes this to heart and does it for free for thousands of users > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > are already supporting google and you shut them down? Now we > > > > > > > have to > > > > > > > pick between having space for apps on our phone -OR- not having > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > marketplace on our phone anymore so it doesn't even matter? I > > > > > > > highly > > > > > > > suggest if you are going to C&D cyanogen to give users who have > > > > > > > PAID > > > > > > > for a 'powered by google' android device to backup their google > > > > > > > apps > > > > > > > that they paid for. We have paid for the software we should be > > > > > > > entitled to use it with any build of android we choose. > > > > > > > Otherwise, > > > > > > > you might want to try taking user requests a little more > > > > > > > seriously. > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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