Sorry, I wasn't very clear. It's not currently possible to run Android
"as is" on a FreeRunner.

I meant that it would be nice to be able to download the official
Android source code on a PC (and nothing else beyond the tools that
are normally needed to compile Android), and to be able to compile a
full configuration that would run on the FreeRunner and handle the
concerns that were expressed.

I believe that this would be a nicer experience for people who want to
experiment with Android on FreeRunner than having to work with
multiple separate open-source projects. In order to get there, though,
someone has to make all the relevant changes in the official Android
source code.

JBQ

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Davide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am very new to android, do you mean that is possible to
> download and run make android on a freerunner?
>
> I have downloaded the source code, there are any gb
> of code.
>
> It is possible to make on pc with target a freerunner
> system?
>
> I think isn't easy to make on freerunner direct, there
> is less space and tools.
>
>
>
> 2008/11/25 Jean-Baptiste Queru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> I don't see any fundamental reason why building FreeRunner images
>> couldn't be done from within the existing Android build system, and I
>> believe that the existing configuration system should be able to
>> exclude parts that might be undesirable (or could be reasonably easily
>> extended to add that ability). There might not be a need to create a
>> separate project for this.
>>
>> JBQ
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Davide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Very thanks for your very complete and clear explanation.
>>>
>>> To install android on freerunner it was very nice to
>>> have a setup script like for installing debian
>>> on freerunner.
>>>
>>> A script that check all and do all the necessary steps
>>> (patch, compile, deploy, ecc)
>>>
>>> Why not create an open source project for building such
>>> script?
>>>
>>> It is possible to avoid the legal issues of previous
>>> portings? Or the legal issues will block any other
>>> way?
>>>
>>> 2008/11/25 Jim Ancona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 24, 5:00 pm, Davide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> Anyone can help me?
>>>>
>>>> Three people that I know of are working (apparently independently) on
>>>> Freerunner/Neo ports. (I'm not one of them!) I believe all three have
>>>> them have posted on this list at one time or another.
>>>>
>>>> One of the three, Sean McNeil, has released a couple of sample images
>>>> here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3
>>>> He removed his latest image because of licensing concerns with MP3 and
>>>> video codecs. Some of his patches have been submitted to Google. The
>>>> kernel that he has posted does not resume from suspend, and most of
>>>> the peripherals (Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth) either don't work or are very
>>>> flaky. I have a copy of his image, and it the phone can make calls
>>>> using Android, but can't receive them because there's no "answer"
>>>> button.
>>>>
>>>> A second port is being worked on by Brian Code, who has a email
>>>> address at Koolu, a Freerunner distributor which has announced a
>>>> forthcoming Android port (see http://tinyurl.com/5pnkku). I haven't
>>>> seen anything from him since an initial flurry of activity right after
>>>> Google released the Android source. Koolu has set up an Android on
>>>> Freerunner forum at http://forum.koolu.org/viewforum.php?f=10, but
>>>> it's been pretty quiet.
>>>>
>>>> The third developer working on Android for Openmoko phones is Ben
>>>> Leslie (http://benno.id.au/blog/). He says he has an image running on
>>>> his Neo (the predecessor to the Freerunner), but I haven't seen
>>>> anything from him since he left on vacation three weeks ago.
>>>>
>>>> Supposedly, Android support has been integrated into the next release
>>>> of the Freerunner kernel, and the Openmoko developers are putting most
>>>> of their effort into making the low-level functionality (suspend/
>>>> resume, GSM modem issues, etc.) more reliable, which should benefit
>>>> all distributions in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Right now, it's a bit frustrating because there is no visibility into
>>>> the state of the various ports. There's no source repository or other
>>>> way for anyone to build their own image or contribute to the effort.
>>>> Of course it's still just a month since the source was released, so
>>>> I'm still cautiously optimistic that a usable port for the Freerunner
>>>> will come out, probably from Koolu. They're claiming a beta will be
>>>> available in December, so we should know more soon.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
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