On 2011-10-28 16:08, rajesh banginwar wrote:
> Yes, that was going to be my follow up question :-)
> 
> 
> I agree with you that crypto acceleration has only limited benefits
> and only in some cases (depending on how much data etc). Following
> up on Brian's response, will be doing some additional research on that topic..
> coming to key mgmt, Is the recommendation to implement a service provider 
> for key mgmt? Any ideas what google wallet uses as far as Java APIs are 
> concerned?

I hope that nobody takes the offense but although the Android platform is
marketed as "open", the stuff that goes into the platform, including the
future plans for it, is hardly more open than for example Apple's or
Microsoft's counterparts.

The Google Wallet has not been disclosed in detail because Google cannot do
that due to the NDA for the NFC chip.  Reverse engineering is your friend :-)

Anyway, Google Wallet represent a V0.3 design so we shouldn't bother too much
about it at this stage except by using it and getting experiences that could
be of use for a NextGen version.

I'm personally unconvinced that payment and identity solutions need different
technical foundations so I'm running an (entirely) open effort for creating
a unified solution.  Since it also includes enhanced smart cards and
networked boxes it is probably a bit outside of Google's somewhat narrow
vision but I remain confident that is the right approach reaching the critical
mass that at least the existing security hardware vendors have failed with.

The scheme builds on "Open Security Hardware":

http://webpki.org/papers/keygen2/sks-keygen2-exec-level-presentation.pdf

Anders



>  
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> -Rajesh
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Anders Rundgren <[email protected]>
> To: Android Security Discussions <[email protected]>
> Cc: Brian Carlstrom <[email protected]>; rajesh banginwar 
> <[email protected]>; Pandit <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:10 PM
> Subject: Google Wallet. Re: [android-security-discuss] Dalvik crypto provider
> 
> http://www.google.com/wallet
> 
> already has a HW crypto provider.  Like many HW-related things
> in the mobile world it is NDA-protected.
> 
> Anyway, client devices will not include HW crypto to enhance
> performance (it is hard beating a 1GHz ARM processor...), but
> for improved protection of keys.
> 
> Anders
> 

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