> It is also not completely true what you say about the modelling tools, > because you only need the professional versions of the UML tools if you > want to use the bpm4struts cartridge. In my case (using the Java and the > EJB cartridge) I can safely work with the free (community) version of > Poseidon or the community version of MagicDraw (also free). > > *hmm* complicated you say. I think that there is always additional work > to get known to the technology before you really benefit from using it. > We did a bit research in open source MDA generators and our result was > that AndroMDA provides quite a good documentation and a very good > community with friendly developers that will help you out. Perhaps it is > a bit hard to understand all the design decisions, but once you get used > to it, it is getting easier and easier, give it a try :) >
hi Alexandre, also don't forget that the 3.0 version is not even final yet .. we're in the process of finalizing it, and this means also that we'll update the documentation to correspond to the binary distribution as closely as possible; we need to do that because we implemented a lot of features, including a lot of user requests I personally also think that MDA, and AndroMDA more specifically, is a very advanced tool in respect to software engineering in general; some might even say that MDA revolutionizes the way we are developing today .. you have to know that when you are doing MDA at this time you're one of the happy few. Most developers haven't even entered that stage yet (not that they have to, it's just that for J2EE at this point MDA is very convenient). we have always been very open to user feedback, especially when it concerns improving AndroMDA, so feel free to let us know where you're stuck .. the best way to do that is to open an issue in JIRA (http://team.andromda.org:8080/jira) Finally, it's also worth knowing that everybody working on AndroMDA, contibutors included, is doing this in their spare time; we mostly keep working on it because we use it in our professional lives too. Anyway, knowing that you can understand we don't provide the same services as a commercial company, it just works a little differently. so concretely... would you like to see an Hibernate example, a picture or something on the website to get you started ? regards -- Wouter ps: about the MagicDraw 'lock-in', we are not affiliated with NoMagic, it's just that they were kind enough to allow is to use their UML tool for the development of AndroMDA, and since we all like it so much we are very excited about it. It is my personal and honest opinion that there is no other tool with such excellent UML and XMI support .. and yes, I tried them all (except for Enterprise Architect, I've been told that one is very good too) and there was always some kind of blocking problem, trust me, I have tried to build bpm4struts with maximum compatibility in mind, so I tested a lot of tools for their XMI capabilities. What concerns Rational Rose, it's a Mamoth of a tool .. which is bought by a lot of companies because they are not using UML for the same reasons as us. I personally dislike it very much when a tool weighs 200MB+, is bundled with 80% stuff I will never use and makes me feel I just made come kind of compromise. When push comes to shove, and one realizes that a good UML tool offers more than a glorified "paint.exe", MagicDraw beats all of them hands-down. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idU88&alloc_id065&op=click _______________________________________________ Andromda-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/andromda-user
