--- Wouter Zoons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is also not completely true what you say about > the modelling tools, > > because you only need the professional versions of > the UML tools if you > > want to use the bpm4struts cartridge. In my case > (using the Java and the > > EJB cartridge) I can safely work with the free > (community) version of > > Poseidon or the community version of MagicDraw > (also free). > > > > *hmm* complicated you say. I think that there is > always additional work > > to get known to the technology before you really > benefit from using it. > > We did a bit research in open source MDA > generators and our result was > > that AndroMDA provides quite a good documentation > and a very good > > community with friendly developers that will help > you out. Perhaps it is > > a bit hard to understand all the design decisions, > but once you get used > > to it, it is getting easier and easier, give it a > try :) > > > > hi Alexandre, > > also don't forget that the 3.0 version is not even > final yet .. we're in > the process of finalizing it, and this means also > that we'll update the > documentation to correspond to the binary > distribution as closely as > possible; we need to do that because we implemented > a lot of features, > including a lot of user requests > > I personally also think that MDA, and AndroMDA more > specifically, is a > very advanced tool in respect to software > engineering in general; some > might even say that MDA revolutionizes the way we > are developing today .. > you have to know that when you are doing MDA at this > time you're one of > the happy few. Most developers haven't even entered > that stage yet (not > that they have to, it's just that for J2EE at this > point MDA is very > convenient). > > we have always been very open to user feedback, > especially when it > concerns improving AndroMDA, so feel free to let us > know where you're > stuck .. the best way to do that is to open an issue > in JIRA > (http://team.andromda.org:8080/jira) > > Finally, it's also worth knowing that everybody > working on AndroMDA, > contibutors included, is doing this in their spare > time; we mostly keep > working on it because we use it in our professional > lives too. Anyway, > knowing that you can understand we don't provide the > same services as a > commercial company, it just works a little > differently. > > so concretely... would you like to see an Hibernate > example, a picture or > something on the website to get you started ? > > > regards > -- Wouter > > ps: about the MagicDraw 'lock-in', we are not > affiliated with NoMagic, > it's just that they were kind enough to allow is to > use their UML tool for > the development of AndroMDA, and since we all like > it so much we are very > excited about it. It is my personal and honest > opinion that there is no > other tool with such excellent UML and XMI support > .. and yes, I tried > them all (except for Enterprise Architect, I've been > told that one is very > good too) and there was always some kind of blocking > problem, trust me, I > have tried to build bpm4struts with maximum > compatibility in mind, so I > tested a lot of tools for their XMI capabilities. > > What concerns Rational Rose, it's a Mamoth of a tool > .. which is bought by > a lot of companies because they are not using UML > for the same reasons as > us. I personally dislike it very much when a tool > weighs 200MB+, is > bundled with 80% stuff I will never use and makes me > feel I just made come > kind of compromise. > > When push comes to shove, and one realizes that a > good UML tool offers > more than a glorified "paint.exe", MagicDraw beats > all of them hands-down.
We aren't "locked-in" to any tool. Magic Draw just happens to support UML 1.4 (which MDR loads and AndroMDA supports). UML 1.4 isn't any vendor specific specification, its a standard and if rational rose or any of the other larger tools you talk about did a better job at supporting standard XMI and UML 1.4 then AndroMDA would work with those as well. If you (or someone else) wanted to put forth the effort at creating an AndroMDA metafacades implementation for UML 1.3 then rational rose would be supported as well (its really not that much work, its just no-one has really had the desire to create the metafacades for UML 1.3 support, someone started a while back and then never finished). Chad > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for > FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best > database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idU88&alloc_id065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Andromda-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/andromda-user > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click _______________________________________________ Andromda-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/andromda-user
